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3rd January 06, 12:54 PM
#81
trews...
 Originally Posted by GlassMan
Dear Graham, I think tartan trews look terrible too. That's why I suggested them and in the loudest tartan possible. I guess I wasn't clear enough in my passive aggression.  And I say this with all respect, no sarcasm, and meant simply as a clarification. As our most prolific poster and someone whose style I admire, I totally respect your opinion and agree with it.
Some of us like trews, though...and when said trews are in a very "tasteful" tartan, such as the Goverment Sett or another "darker" tartan, they are quite natty, especially with formal wear -- not to mention the fact that they are the uniform of several of the Lowland regiments, such as the Royal Scots, the King's Own Scottish Borderers, and the RHF.
I'm planing to order a pair for myself in the not-to-distant future...
Regards,
Todd
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3rd January 06, 12:57 PM
#82
I'm very sorry to hear about the discrimination you are facing.
When my church was first introduced to my kilt-ing, a few eyebrows were raised.
When one of the ladies mentioned something to me, I quietly asked her for the passage that mentioned Jesus wearing pants. ;) Nothing more has ever been mentioned.
While I wear kilts whenever I can, I try to always wear one for Sunday services. I am one of our church's ushers, and help with the Offeratory each week. I now regularly field questions regarding tartans, history, heritage, etc. And of course I got married in this church, in a full outfit.
I guess while our situations are not that alike, there is hope that you can open their eyes and minds.
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3rd January 06, 01:19 PM
#83
 Originally Posted by GlassMan
Oh my, I did not mean to offend you. I'm very sorry. I just thought that as trews it would be completely unexpected. If I offended you in any way I apologize.
Sorry, didn't mean to set you back like that. I was just yanking your chain and thought the smilie would get that across. It is actually hard to offend me except with serious stupidity. In those cases I try to realize that it's just an ID-10-T error :grin: I too, would NOT like a pair of Ancient Livingstone trews
Last edited by Livingston; 3rd January 06 at 01:21 PM.
Reason: adding info
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3rd January 06, 05:42 PM
#84
 Originally Posted by bjcustard
I'm very sorry to hear about the discrimination you are facing.
When my church was first introduced to my kilt-ing, a few eyebrows were raised.
When one of the ladies mentioned something to me, I quietly asked her for the passage that mentioned Jesus wearing pants. ;) Nothing more has ever been mentioned.
While I wear kilts whenever I can, I try to always wear one for Sunday services. I am one of our church's ushers, and help with the Offeratory each week. I now regularly field questions regarding tartans, history, heritage, etc. And of course I got married in this church, in a full outfit.
I guess while our situations are not that alike, there is hope that you can open their eyes and minds.
SENSIBLE AND POLITE. MAYBE SOME GENTLE PERSUASION WILL HELP? OR,IS THIS ALL FINAL?
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3rd January 06, 06:06 PM
#85
As ever, education is a needed first step. Don't cross sabres before politely trying to enlighten the ignorant ones.
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3rd January 06, 07:48 PM
#86
perhaps a day late and a dollar short ......
Dress Codes.
It seems everyone, every company, every pine branch bending in the breeze has their own. It's a shame in todays world, as advanced as the human race really is, the few must conform their lives to the satisfaction of the condescending. And for nothing more than one poor soul being uncomfortable in the presense of a world hailed, world renown and world class garment, 'The Kilt'.
As I write, I have headphones on and listening to George Harrison singing 'All Things Must Pass'. I find this ironic. All things do not pass. There is always a residue, and in some cases a stinking residue, from a prior civilization or mentality haunting around every corner.
We as emissaries for and who carry the 'Cross Of The Kilt' continually bear witness to the banning of 'The Kilt'. Even after 250 years, the uncertain folk, the uneducated folk, the apparently never ending supply of insecure folk seek to ban 'The Kilt' as if it were the plague and devouring their very souls stuffing them into darkness. We kilters only bring enlightenment.
Witness Nathan, as of late, and others earlier in 2005 who were chastised for wearing a kilt. A family garment. Chastised for wearing a simple piece of cloth to honor their families.
It is a shame, Herman, that you must live the reality and others cannot raise a hand or do a thing to send you reprieve. For that I apologize. I wish I could help.
And to add my opinion, these people aren't ignorant and in need of education. These people are beyond education. They detest what they can't control. They are blind to culture. They are all powerful, all knowing and seek to twist and turn any and every one in their path to their beliefs. There is no common ground.
They continue a fruitless endeavor and yet they survive. In some fashion we, the Kilters of this world, will righteously prevail.
Best to you Herminator..........
Les
Kentucky
Last edited by lcjones; 3rd January 06 at 07:54 PM.
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3rd January 06, 09:51 PM
#87
Wise words as usual Les. Thank you for them.
Glen McGuire
A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.
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4th January 06, 10:33 AM
#88
 Originally Posted by lcjones
...And to add my opinion, these people aren't ignorant and in need of education. These people are beyond education. They detest what they can't control. They are blind to culture. They are all powerful, all knowing and seek to twist and turn any and every one in their path to their beliefs. There is no common ground.
They continue a fruitless endeavor and yet they survive. In some fashion we, the Kilters of this world, will righteously prevail.
Best to you Herminator..........
Les
Kentucky
On the contrary, many people respond well to being politely informed about the history & pride associated with the kilt. I didn't know much about it myself 2 1/2 years ago. The people who respond positively to being informed can even become converts. I think it's better to disarm them with charm, if you can.
And if the people involved don't respond well to reason, then you can still pull out the big guns.
OTOH, Hermann, you could make sure that the next time you see the director you are kilted. You can sit next to him, put your hand on his knee, & tell him that you really do care how he feels. ;)
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5th January 06, 12:23 AM
#89
   
Good thing I havenīt got my coffee yet!
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5th January 06, 03:44 AM
#90
 Originally Posted by Sherry
OTOH, Hermann, you could make sure that the next time you see the director you are kilted. You can sit next to him, put your hand on his knee, & tell him that you really do care how he feels.  ;)
That sounds like the best way to negotiate!!!
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