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14th January 06, 06:13 AM
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Amen to that
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
Don't think so, Derek.... this is a fashion freedom story and won't resonate with Scots and their ilk the same as the Warmack case.
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14th January 06, 08:24 AM
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Ok, the dress code may need to be amended or, as the article suggests, enforced equally but this one won't fly.
To quote: "The two friends — Richard Mayotte, 17, and Dustin Christal, 16 — wore the kilts as a protest because they feel some students, especially girls, get by with dress code violations."
If this is the truth of the situation it takes it out of the realm of fashion or clothing to intentional disruption. Should that be the case I gotta stand with the school on this one.
Mike
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14th January 06, 09:38 AM
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If it is a protest concerning unequal enforcement of the dress code the next step after this protest is to file a complaint with the school district. At this point I don't see this being a heritage issue.
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14th January 06, 10:04 AM
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Until I have seen some proof that those boys are actually wearing kilts, I am going to think that they wore skirts to school that day. They wore their Homemade creation, a table cloth and duct tape perhaps, to raise their voice and to protest. They wore that to cause a co-motion.
I think the principal did the right thing because they were not wearing kilts and they were looking for troubles.
Send those punk arses to detention too.
Last edited by Raphael; 14th January 06 at 12:18 PM.
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14th January 06, 10:19 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Raphael
.... Send those punk arses to detention too....
OK, but better also send the girls who were violating the rules as well.
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14th January 06, 12:18 PM
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At this point I don't see this being a heritage issue.
I think being male is a pretty important part of my heritage. Males are being discriminated against in schools and work when it comes to clothing.
But then, there are lots of folks who see kilt-wearing strictly as an expression of their culture and are quite happy with them being restricted -- even to the extent of limiting everyone else's clothing choices to uniforms.
As I've said before, there are a lot of different agendas at work here.
My agenda is, and has always been: "What gets more guys into kilts is good. What doesn't get more guys into kilts is bad."
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14th January 06, 12:36 PM
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heritage...
 Originally Posted by Rigged
I think being male is a pretty important part of my heritage. Males are being discriminated against in schools and work when it comes to clothing.
But then, there are lots of folks who see kilt-wearing strictly as an expression of their culture and are quite happy with them being restricted -- even to the extent of limiting everyone else's clothing choices to uniforms.
As I've said before, there are a lot of different agendas at work here.
My agenda is, and has always been: "What gets more guys into kilts is good. What doesn't get more guys into kilts is bad."
Rigged -- I certainly respect your right to wear whatever you please. Why do some who choose to wear the "modern" or "casual" style of kilts seem to view of all of us who are "traditionalists" as always hostile towards them? I'll admit they're out there, but why should my choosing to follow certain customs regarding Highland Dress be "limiting", when the only person it's limiting is me --and I think I can live with that! ;)
My kilt is an expression of my heritage, and I want to show it the respect it deserves. I don't expect anyone else to, since I cannot live anyone else's life. But I do expect those who demand respect from me to return it.
I've said before, and I'll say it again, some of the most (but not all!) intolerant folks I have ever met are non-conformists demanding that everyone conform to their standards. I'm not saying this about Rigged, just a observation and opinion.
Rant off.
Todd
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16th January 06, 09:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by Raphael
Until I have seen some proof that those boys are actually wearing kilts, I am going to think that they wore skirts to school that day. They wore their Homemade creation, a table cloth and duct tape perhaps, to raise their voice and to protest. They wore that to cause a co-motion.
I think the principal did the right thing because they were not wearing kilts and they were looking for troubles.
Send those punk arses to detention too.
First, the article says that one of their mothers made the kilts from a traditional kilt pattern (Probably the simplisity one).
Second, they are absoultely right in protesting an unfair double standard. Once when I was in school the vice principal stopped me in the hall for a "Dress code" violation. I was wearing a mussle shirt - tank tops were prohibited, t-shirts allowed, I was in between, but the jocks got away with wearing them all the time. Still it was a judgement call on the VP. However, while he was yelling at me (in public in the hall) a girl walked up to him to ask a question. She was dressed in shorts and a tube top, both specifically prohibited in the dress code. He could have cared less. He lost what ever credibility he had with me right there.
Adam
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16th January 06, 09:54 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by bubba
If it is a protest concerning unequal enforcement of the dress code the next step after this protest is to file a complaint with the school district. At this point I don't see this being a heritage issue.
I have to agree with you bubba ... this is NOT a cultural or heritage issue and one that I would not rally around. We all have to be careful that we do not turn into a Scottish version of the Reverand Al Sharpton.
Brian Mackay
"I find that a great part of the information I have was acquired by looking up something and finding something else on the way."
- Franklin P. Adams
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16th January 06, 02:10 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by BMackay
I have to agree with you bubba ... this is NOT a cultural or heritage issue and one that I would not rally around. We all have to be careful that we do not turn into a Scottish version of the Reverand Al Sharpton.
Brian Mackay
Got to agree. Sounds like the school needs to follow their own rules. Regardless, kind of dumb to ban kilts but allow women to wear skirts. If this was a private school, that would be another matter being that they can ban whatever they want. However this is a public school, therefore they're should be equal treatment. If women get to wear pants, men should be able to, at the very least, wear a kilt.
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