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21st January 06, 11:19 AM
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Rules simply put are wear what you think is right but always respect what you wear. So if the Black Stewart suits you go for it.
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21st January 06, 11:32 AM
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Which kilt should I wear
Black Watch is an English government tartan so is probably OK for anyone to wear without offending any clan purists.
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21st January 06, 04:09 PM
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"English" tartan
 Originally Posted by cessna152towser
Black Watch is an English government tartan so is probably OK for anyone to wear without offending any clan purists.
I wouldn't make that remark around any Grants, Munros, or Campbells! ;)
Cheers, 
Todd
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21st January 06, 11:41 AM
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To Southern Breeze and Millar:
Thanks for the advice and the link, but I guess what I'm asking is "what are the most restrictive rules for the wearing of the kilt that will still allow me to wear it?" I realise that no one can stop me wearing what I want to wear (and trust me, if I build up a collection of kilts I'm sure to wear many tartans that will not be ones I'm 'permitted' to wear). But just for fun I'd like to be steered towards a tartan that everyone (except perhaps those who insist on verifiable clan ancestry) could agree that I'm welcome to wear. In other words I want to find out which tartan the 'rules' say I should wear - just for fun - after all, I may hate it and not want to wear it at all. Basically, I have no real preference as to colour, so I'm attempting to use the biases of others to steer me towards a tartan. It's sort of a game based on respect for the opinions of the kilt aficionados - I feel it makes the game more interesting if it's driven by rules more complex and meaningful than simply choosing a tartan at random. Sure, I could choose the Black Stewart, and it would be fine, but in light of my not really caring about the colour, giving the choice some sort of rationale appeals to me.
Last edited by Beery; 21st January 06 at 11:46 AM.
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21st January 06, 11:49 AM
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Like I said in the other thread, if you are concerned about expense, check out Stillawter. If you don't mind spending anywhere from about $250 to as much as $700, check out the other kiltmakers you will hear about on this forum. They will all have some generic tartans. Since you say tou have Welch ancestry, there are several who offer a Welch national tartan.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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21st January 06, 11:50 AM
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I've noticed there's a Welsh national tartan, and I think I even saw a New Zealand national tartan. Does England have a national tartan other than the government one?
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21st January 06, 12:00 PM
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If I was going to buy a Shelby Ford Mustang, I'd want to know a lot about Mustangs and the history behind the Shelby. It's a car that people who know cars would ask me about and I should have answers.
I feel the same way about tartans. I wear a Stewart tartan and I took the time to learn something about the Stewarts and my familiy's relation to the Stewarts, in case someone asks -- and people have asked.
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21st January 06, 04:16 PM
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English tartans...
 Originally Posted by Beery
I've noticed there's a Welsh national tartan, and I think I even saw a New Zealand national tartan. Does England have a national tartan other than the government one?
There are several tartans associated with English counties:
www.district-tartans.com/british.htm
And I should point out that the Government Sett, also known as the Black Watch tartan is not really an "English" tartan, since it was worn by a Scottish regiment, and a Highland one to boot, in service of the British crown.
I would recommend a district tartan, such as the Mass. state tartan, the US tartan, or one of the English or Welsh tartans. I personally like to see more folks wearing these, and the whole concept of a district tartan is very historical. Matt Newsome's web site that I cited above is a plethora of information on district tartans.
Cheers, 
Todd
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21st January 06, 08:31 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Thanks for that. Since I was born in Sheffield, that would be a nice choice for me - I like the colours too.
Eventually I'll probably get a Black Stewart, an Ancient Cooper and a Sheffield. Maybe also a Durham, since that's where my dad was from.
Thanks also to everyone else who responded. I appreciate all the replies.
Last edited by Beery; 21st January 06 at 09:50 PM.
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22nd January 06, 03:49 AM
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The Tartan I reccomend to people who want a Non clan Tartan is "flower of Scotland" it was named after the National anthem of Scotland (Flower of Scotland) Written by Roy Williamson of "The Corries, Williamson had connections with clan Gunn so the tartan is similar, its one of my Favourite Tartans, my family Tartans are Cameron and Gordon, but I have a "Flower of Scotland" 8 yard Kilt from Hector Russell, and here I am !
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