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2nd March 06, 07:54 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by cavscout
... a PK Forest MarPat which is the perfect weight in my opinion for a utility kilt. I've worked in the heat in it and stay very comfortable.
I'll second that. I've worn my Marpat PK all over the mountains here and it is, by far, the most comfortable kilt I own. (BTW I have several dozen).
I sure hope Jeff gets to where he can take more orders.
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2nd March 06, 10:33 PM
#2
My favorite summer weight kilt is a USA Kilt's Casual. The PV material breathes better than wool and other synthetic materials. Also, the Casual's lower pants-type waist is much cooler than a traditional kilt's higher waist.
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3rd March 06, 12:20 AM
#3
Here it might not be possible to compare like with like, for as I understand it we do not experience the same levels of heat and humidity here in the UK, as in America.
For the British summer the 'Gentlman's Kilts' made by a lady in Sussex are ideal: in essence they are a light coventional wool tartan, but with far less material and only four deep pleats. With a simple velcro fastening to the left, and a nylon strap and buckle to the right.
I have worn them in the hottest of British weather, and been perfectly comfortable. Too unless looked at closely they appear as a regular kilt, so one does not appear out of place when wearing them. Mine are in my own tartan.
As an alternative, I also have a very light traditional kilt, which also is very comfortable in the warmer months-but being light can tend to a certain friskiness on windy days.
James
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3rd March 06, 01:42 AM
#4
light-weight kilts
James,
please tell us more of this lovely lady that makes kilts in Sussex.
I already have a couple of Scotish-made lightweights, which I like, but think they would be nicer with fewer, deeper pleats. Why must a kilt have 20-something pleats if there are not yards and yards of material to pleat? Just another tradition of doubtful origin? Both my Kinloch Anderson andmy Campbell casual, have very shallow pleats more appropriate to a lady's skirt.
I have made myself kilts with just 4 or 5 pleats and I think they look fine -- but I'm sure they'd look better still if made by a professional.
Martin S,
Grenoble, France.
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3rd March 06, 08:21 AM
#5
Martin,
It was back in 96-and of late they seem to have vanished-possibly they were a bit too soon for the present upsurge in kilt wearing?
In any event the address was:-
Elizabeth Taylor &Co
5 Rother Close,
Storrington,
West Sussex.
RN20 3NX
Great Britain.
The proper name of the garment being The Lightweight Gentleman's Kilt.
Anyway that means I've had them for eight years of regular summer wear-and they are still fine.
By the way I did have pockets added.
The regular light weight kilt I mentioned does have deep pleats-that was from Hector Russell.
I think a problem of today is that with the upsurge in kilt wearing, some firms have leapt on the idea-made cheap options: so have lost the essentials of the traditional kilt. My own view being that it is not so much the number of pleats, rather their depth which enables a kilt to swing. They also allow the buyers to purchase overlong sloppy looking kilts that part or entirely cover the knee. For they lose sight of the fact that the kilt is a very masculine jaunty garment-and needs to be worn as such.
James
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3rd March 06, 12:29 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by James
Martin,
It was back in 96-and of late they seem to have vanished-possibly they were a bit too soon for the present upsurge in kilt wearing?
In any event the address was:-
Elizabeth Taylor &Co
5 Rother Close,
Storrington,
West Sussex.
RN20 3NX
Great Britain.
The proper name of the garment being The Lightweight Gentleman's Kilt.
Anyway that means I've had them for eight years of regular summer wear-and they are still fine.
By the way I did have pockets added.
The regular light weight kilt I mentioned does have deep pleats-that was from Hector Russell.
I think a problem of today is that with the upsurge in kilt wearing, some firms have leapt on the idea-made cheap options: so have lost the essentials of the traditional kilt. My own view being that it is not so much the number of pleats, rather their depth which enables a kilt to swing. They also allow the buyers to purchase overlong sloppy looking kilts that part or entirely cover the knee. For they lose sight of the fact that the kilt is a very masculine jaunty garment-and needs to be worn as such.
James
Storrington--isn't that Hamish's home town? He must know something of this lady in any case; there doesn't seem to be anything about kilts he doesn't know!
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6th March 06, 07:01 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by kiltimabar
Storrington--isn't that Hamish's home town? He must know something of this lady in any case; there doesn't seem to be anything about kilts he doesn't know!
It is indeed, and Rother Close is about ¼ mile from my house! However, I have to tell you that Mrs. Elizabeth Taylor and her family moved from that address at least eight years ago and now no-one has any idea where she might be.
I first heard of her in about 1999, went to the house for a chat but was told by the then occupier that the Taylors had moved a year or two previously. Never having seen her work, catalogues or even a website, I didn't realise that her kilts were anything other than 'traditional' until now. I should certainly have liked one of her kilts for my Kollection, but she must have kept her operation low-key because I moved here in 1991 and yet never knew of her. I also know another family who have lived in Rother Close, a short cul-de-sac, for over twenty years - and they knew the Taylors by sight, but nothing of any kilt connection!!
[B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/
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3rd March 06, 12:49 PM
#8
I've only had one bad summer kilt experience and that was in my UK Original but that was because I was also standing behind a refrigerator unit and the heat from the machinery was blowing directly onto my backside...didn't realize this until WAY too late and I was sweating like a pig
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3rd March 06, 01:24 PM
#9
Well, down here where summers are HOT I've been very pleased with my lighterweight 11 oz hand sewn from Kathy's Kilts.
Also like to hike in my SportKilts in summer, near to feeling nekie.
They ain't tartans, but my UK originals are very light summer kilts too.
But the heavier kilts work too...must be the same principle that the desert people use on the other side of the world to keep cool by wearing a lot.
There are a lot of summer pics in my gallery. I don't ever remember a kilt making me "too hot" during the summer. The heat actually helped the leather kilts. Would go hiking in the leather kilt to shape and mold it more to my body.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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3rd March 06, 01:26 PM
#10
How could I forget....my 'camo tartan' AmeriKilt Tiger Stripe is a great summer kilt, as are all my AmeriKilts.
For every kilt there is a season...
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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