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    I had thought that the owner of Piper's Cove had designed and patented it and that HOE used it under liscense in their "Irish line" of fashion tartans...

    When I checked 2 different sources online, I found this:

    "Produced for Macnaughtons of Pitlochry in a collection of trade tartans, designed for ex-pat Irish by the House of Edgar.
    The source of tartan 2245 was: Polly Wittering. House Of Edgar. "

    (Keep in mind that "MacNaughton Holdings" is HOE). Not sure what the real deal is here... maybe Jerry from SW can elaborate.

    Ireland's National is a COMLETELY different tartan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyR
    I had thought that the owner of Piper's Cove had designed and patented it and that HOE used it under liscense in their "Irish line" of fashion tartans...

    When I checked 2 different sources online, I found this:

    "Produced for Macnaughtons of Pitlochry in a collection of trade tartans, designed for ex-pat Irish by the House of Edgar.
    The source of tartan 2245 was: Polly Wittering. House Of Edgar. "

    (Keep in mind that "MacNaughton Holdings" is HOE). Not sure what the real deal is here... maybe Jerry from SW can elaborate.

    Ireland's National is a COMLETELY different tartan.

    I was not aware that we are being sued, but I do have a rather messy desk, perhaps I should go through my pile of mail again...Hmm...This envelope looks very official, let's take a look...Wow! I may already be a winner!

    Anyway...We are operating on the position the HoE/Macnaughton has the rights, I have no reason to think it is otherwise. If there was a claim, I'm sure it would have been ironed out sometime in the last TEN YEARS that the tartan has been around. Pipers Cove does not mention it on their website, and they rent HoE Irish National kilts, so I think this topic is settled for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sciuropterus
    I was not aware that we are being sued, but I do have a rather messy desk, perhaps I should go through my pile of mail again...Hmm...This envelope looks very official, let's take a look...Wow! I may already be a winner!

    Anyway...We are operating on the position the HoE/Macnaughton has the rights, I have no reason to think it is otherwise. If there was a claim, I'm sure it would have been ironed out sometime in the last TEN YEARS that the tartan has been around. Pipers Cove does not mention it on their website, and they rent HoE Irish National kilts, so I think this topic is settled for now.

    Any chance of getting a Sciuropterus shirt or clan badge?

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    irish tartan

    there is also a "Celtic Pride" which is similar to Irish National, and which is not confined/patented although it is registered with Scottish Tartan Authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sciuropterus
    I was not aware that we are being sued, but I do have a rather messy desk, perhaps I should go through my pile of mail again...Hmm...This envelope looks very official, let's take a look...Wow! I may already be a winner!

    Anyway...We are operating on the position the HoE/Macnaughton has the rights, I have no reason to think it is otherwise. If there was a claim, I'm sure it would have been ironed out sometime in the last TEN YEARS that the tartan has been around. Pipers Cove does not mention it on their website, and they rent HoE Irish National kilts, so I think this topic is settled for now.
    Hey Jerry... thanks for clearing it up! That's kind of what I gathered after reading the ownership rights on 2 tartan sites, but I figured I'd ask you!

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    Pipers Cove has an extensive kilt rental division featuring four different tartans: Royal Stewart, Black Watch, Muted Dress Macdonald, and the Irish National Tartan, which was designed by "Pipers Cove" and "House of Edgar" at the request of our Irish customers wishing to have a distinctive tartan incorporating the key Irish colors.
    Quote from Piper's Cove Website - Obviously they acknowledge it is with House of Edgar, and if Stillwater has an agreement with them, there is no problem.
    Mark Dockendorf
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