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    I got that recently. I offered him a seat next to me at the bar and paid for his next beer. Once we got to talking about work and women he forgot all about what I was wearing.

    Killin'em with kindness usually works.

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    Quote: Auld Argonian


    A lot of you guys seem to be into martial arts and weaponry and the like...good for you. I happen to have two kids, a wife, three dogs and a mortgage and I'm on the back-side of fifty years old...I'm not going to take a chance on some schmuck putting me in hospital or worse because I want to shoot off a witty remark at the wrong time and to the wrong overserved moron. If some of you want to tempt fate, it's up to you. Past experience has taught me that no matter how bad you are there's always somebody worse or the guy has a couple of friends who feel that "honor" demands that they avenge their comrade.

    I don't have a concealed carry permit yet, but anyone who would consider using their weapon in this situation should not have a permit or even a weapon. And concealed weapons don't have to be a firearm. It might even be a Sigian Dubh. At any rate, Va law prohibits carring in bars, or any other place which serves alcohol. I think that is a very good idea. I haven't run into the situation yet. It could be because, although I do drink, I don't go to bars. I drink at home. I know some say that makes you an alcoholic, but I live at least a 40 minute drive from the nearest bar, and I'm not going to do more than have 1 beer while bowling or 1 beer with supper and then get into my pickup and drive nearly 35 miles, under the infuence.
    "A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
    Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.

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    I can't even remember the last time someone said a negative remark to my face about my kilt. I'm not sure if they just feel it's unsportsmanlike to pick on a cripple, or if it's something about my bearing that makes them think twice.

    As for when I'm at a bar, I have a tendency to spend my time in only a few places whose prices weeds out the average drunk. I may pay a little more for my drinks at the Mayflower Town & Country or the Hay Adams, but I've always been treated with the utmost respect by all there. Plus, both bartenders give me freebies.

    Now, if someone did decide to make a comment I know for certain that I would not respond violently. It's just not my nature.

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    Or they could be...

    First, remember all the good comments you get! Those guys could be laughing, but maybe deep inside they want to wear a kilt and be brave and free like you, but didn't want to let their true feelings show to their buds, and look childish. Well, they ended up looking childish anyway.

    Like others have said too, if you can give a comeback that makes one of them look like an idiot, then their buds will laugh at him. But in this case it sounds like they were all being childish.

    DALE.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    I had an unleasant experiance a couple hours ago. I was in the Art building at school working on a project. There's a fairly long hallway, the Metals studio is on one end, the blacksmithing studio is around the corner at the other end, and I work in both.

    I wore my UK Workman's today, and I was heading from Metals to Blacksmithing. At the far end of the hall is a bench, upon which were seated four guys I didn't recognize. I stopped at my locker to get my grinder, and I could see that they were all staring at me. As I walked by I could see out of the corner of my eye they were still looking at me, and I just walked by ignoring them. Before I had even rounded the corner they were lauging their arses off, and as soon as the corner was rounded they were ridiculing my choice of garment in loud voices.

    I went into the monitor's office to get an extension cord, and we both commented on stupid people. She said there was nothing I could do, and I told her yes there was, I could have been an idiot back, but I have better things to do and don't want to stoop to their level.

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    If they are that insecure because your around, it's probably best to give a nod and a smile, and then ignore the comment!

    It's more than they deserve in the first place!

    They are trying to make you uncomfortable, because they are, and there are ways both good and bad that it could go with any statement or gesture.

    Just try to keep yourself in control in the situation.
    Mark Dockendorf
    Left on the Right Coast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin
    Last friday...a drunken "suit" pushed me to the limits (I'm really a non violent person)...

    "Hey! Scottish boy! , hey! faggit!"



    He asked for it...and he got it...
    This would of had me steamed as well Robin. Good on you says I. I'm not adverse to violence and have little patience for such insults. For those that can turn the other cheek, you have my respect .... and a great deal more patience.

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    I'm fairly non-confrontational, so I'll walk away from a fight (never got in one to date), but I'll not say that story doesn't make me grin.

    I don't suffer fools gladly, but the way I see it, I have much more interesting ways of wasting my time than wasting it on idiots.
    An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
    (When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)

    Kiltio Ergo Sum.
    I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef

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    I didn't smash his face or something...I just grabbed his shirt and swept his feet away...bringing him down "guided"...ended on top of him. Something I learned when I was a policeman...no damage done.

    Again...I hate violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus MacSpey
    Men can fight and be friends 10 minutes later.

    Now chick fights, on the other hand....
    Hey now- that's how I met one of my best friends! We had a knock-down, drag-out fight (over what? I don't remember) and while sitting at the principal's office to take our lumps, became friends.

    Re: Concealed weapons, or carrying them in general... Vimes, one of my favorite literary characters, has just discovered a one-shot crossbow, basically a tube with a powerful spring and an arrow...
    "This is not a weapon. This is for killing people," he said.
    "Uh, most weapons are," said Inigo.
    "No, they're not. They're so you don't have to kill people. They're for... for having. For being seen. For warning. This isn't one of those. It's for hiding away until you bring it out and kill people in the dark."
    -The Fifth Element, Terry Pratchett
    Just be careful and remember not to pull anything you're not prepared to use, and preferably able to use without hurting anyone.

    As for idiots making skirts comments, why not ask any young ladies in skirts at the bar to help you out with showing the differences? "Now, this is an apron, you'll notice her skirt doesn't have one. These buckles? Two on one side, one on the other, I see you, miss, have buttons. This is called a tartan, that's TAHR-tin..." Kill them kindness, or bap them with boredom!

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    Well, after a number of years of dealing with and/or dancing around the inebriated set on St. Paddy's, while kilted up and being encumbered with a drum and other gear, I think I've learned to pass the "skirt" comment off as someone attempting to be clever -- they're not, of course, 1) because they are not being original with their remark, and 2) the originator of the remark, whoever that may have been, was not clever, either, or he would have worked on it a bit. If they persist, I'll simply throw back, "Very original comment. Something I've not heard before." Most drunks number themselves amongst the most intelligent and erudite folk on the planet, and we all know that they are just not there. Legends in their own unfocused and incapacitated minds, and absolutely nowhere else.

    They say it, for the most part, to try to get a response, whether it's a reaction from the kilt-wearer or a guffaw from their equally clever drinkin buds. Ignoring them completely is the best weapon, in my book, unless they become threatening. Even the most voluble can be reminded of the Irish saying (wish I could remember the Gaelic), "Many's the man whose mouth broke his nose."

    My greater concern on St. Paddy's, in a crowded barroom amongst drunken revelers in a wide range of inebriated states is the one sneaky bastid who decides that what you are or are not wearing under the kilt has suddenly become his own personal business. Our side drummers have whacked people's hands with drumsticks, but I'm inclined to be a bit less charitable. "Keep your polluted mitts off da threads, you #@$%-poke" will usually gain their attention, that and being stared down by someone 6'2" and 240. I carry an unsharpened but heavy dirk sheathed on my belt during these events just in case someone moves beyond the point of reason to I-don't-know-what. In a tight spot, I'd reluctantly sacrifice my drum's structural integrity in order to stop a moron made aggressive by an inability to know when to say, "When."

    (However, I will take the skirt on the floor comment away from here today, with intent to direct it at another "clever" man if need be, Friday next. Thanks for that one!)

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