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8th March 06, 11:11 AM
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I would be interested in knowing when, where and why the initial edict against the wearing of underwear came about?
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8th March 06, 07:46 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Moosehead
I would be interested in knowing when, where and why the initial edict against the wearing of underwear came about?
Not claiming to be anything resembling an expert but traditionally NOBODY wore underwear, kilted or otherwise.
Ham gets extra credit for best line thus far.
I once wore a pair of Sex Pistols boxers to a show since the lead singer tends to make jokes about his drummer and I being kilted brethren and something about my blindingly white legs. Short version: he doesn't do that anymore and his bass player doesn't trust that I won't do that again ...
CT - other than that underwear under a kilt just doesn't feel right to me.
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8th March 06, 08:46 PM
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Not claiming to be anything resembling an expert but traditionally NOBODY wore underwear, kilted or otherwise.
No doubt true. However, it seems to me that said Regulation came down through the Regiments, for whatever reason. Even those Regulations have been fluid. I know that today's Regs, in both Canada and the UK, state quite clearly that when women are present, underwear should be worn. And, obviously, not wearing underwear had nothing to do with freedom for "the boys" or higher sperm counts.
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8th March 06, 09:00 PM
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I adapt to the situation I am faced with. If I am trodding around a highland games I never have anyone touch my kilt. Go to a kilted event and someone may inquire whats under, but most won't lift it.
If I go to a pub there is a chance there might be one lady or goof wants to see. Hasn't been a problem yet but I don't take the chance. I had one guy grab the bottom of my kilt recently, I told him quietly and calmly in a joking/ not-joking way that it wouldn't be a good idea. He got the point.
A goofy pair of briefs might be the ticket. Maybe something that belittles the person for lifting the kilt in the first place. We need briefs that put the joke back on them. Make them feel more embarassed that they did it than you feel to actually have someone do it to you. Someone come up with the slogan and we can go to print. X- marks kiltlifter briefs. Put the shame on the shamer.
Kilted Stuart
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8th March 06, 09:04 PM
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Someone come up with the slogan and we can go to print. X- marks kiltlifter briefs. Put the shame on the shamer.
Simple: EFF OFF! One word on each cheek.
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10th March 06, 08:48 PM
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 Originally Posted by Kilted Stuart
I adapt to the situation I am faced with. If I am trodding around a highland games I never have anyone touch my kilt. Go to a kilted event and someone may inquire whats under, but most won't lift it.
If I go to a pub there is a chance there might be one lady or goof wants to see. Hasn't been a problem yet but I don't take the chance. I had one guy grab the bottom of my kilt recently, I told him quietly and calmly in a joking/ not-joking way that it wouldn't be a good idea. He got the point.
A goofy pair of briefs might be the ticket. Maybe something that belittles the person for lifting the kilt in the first place. We need briefs that put the joke back on them. Make them feel more embarassed that they did it than you feel to actually have someone do it to you.
Kilted Stuart
I feel the same way. The first time I wore a kilt to a pub, around St. Patricks Day. I decided to wear silk boxers with silly characters on them. I went outside for breath of fresh air a drunk lady decided to lift my kilt, she was ticked off that i had them on. She asked why, i said because someone would do it! At Highland Games.. never had any one attempt to lift it!!!!
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11th March 06, 10:03 AM
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I think that we live in an age where some folks think that "Animal House" and "Ferris Buehler's Day Off" are supposed to be real life....that you're supposed to play along with their immature behavior and if you don't you're just a bad sport. Too bad for them.
Best
AA
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9th March 06, 09:25 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Moosehead
I would be interested in knowing when, where and why the initial edict against the wearing of underwear came about?
This is something I am very interested in knowing too. Does anybody out there know the facts?
I tell my wife and others that tradition says nothing is to be worn under the kilt. But when they ask me why, I don’t know what to say. I can’t keep saying, “Just because!”.
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9th March 06, 09:53 AM
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"regimental" history...
 Originally Posted by mudd
This is something I am very interested in knowing too. Does anybody out there know the facts?
I tell my wife and others that tradition says nothing is to be worn under the kilt. But when they ask me why, I don’t know what to say. I can’t keep saying, “Just because!”. 
Well, technically, the practice could go back to the formation of the Highland regiments, the first being the Independent Highland Companies in 1724, which in turn became the Black Watch. If Highlanders did not wear undergarments in civilian life, then it's probably safe to say that they didn't when they took "the king's shilling" either. I'm sure Matt will have some information about that! :mrgreen:
I do know of a number of popular French cartoons during the occupation after Napoleon's defeat that show various "flashing" incidents by Scottish soldiers. I also remember a story of a Higland soldier visiting a European monarch and having his kilt lifted by the king! I think that is in Baynes & Laffin's "Soldiers of Scotland"; I'll have a look when I get home this evening.
Cheers, 
Todd
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9th March 06, 10:03 AM
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Todd,
basically as I said. Still does not answer the question as to how it became so ingrained as "tradition".
I also mentioned, though, that the Regs in both Canada and the UK have changed to reflect that going Regimental is not a must, nor is it desired under certain circumstances. That, then, would mean that the wearing of underwear is also now "traditional", seeing as the tradition came from the Regiments.
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