Sgian dhu II

[Toronto Jerry]

If you're interested in making your own sgian dubh, there's a company called Atlanta Cutlery (they're on the web) that used to sell damascus blades for sgian dubhs and dirks (don't know if they still do). If you wanted to go with the antler handle, check out some of the antique shops. I saw a rack in one recently for $15. The handle blanks through knife supply shops can be costly.

Cheers,

TJ

[KiltedKnight]

Hi Kiltedknight,
While your edification concerning the distinction between Codes and Laws is fascinating and enlightening from an academic point of view, unfortunately it is moot when officer "doing his duty" pulls you over, and either arrests you for carrying an "unlawful", or unlawfully concealed weapon, or at the very least confiscates your costly family heirloom away from you and ruins your day.

I actually know a well known antique weapons dealer who was pulled over for a tail light out, and detained for hours because he was transporting some two and three hundred year old bladed weapons secured in his trunk on the way to a Sothebys Militaria Auction! The blades were worth tens of thousands of dollars, but Officer means well wasn't buying it.(I can just imagine storming into Fort Knox brandishing a 200 year old French Officer's Sword, I mean really).

Arguing the point via an attorney in a court of law some days later is up to the discretion of the individual and certainly your prerogative (albeit a costly one), but I think most of us would like to avoid either scenario!

I think all of us would agree that we'd like to avoid either of these scenaios but as the old saying goes; "If you don't stand up for your rights you don't have any rights" Personally, I would have swamped Officer "Means Well" with so much paperwork and charges that he would certainly remember that people have those rights and he is still a public servant.
When you let these officials walk all over you they will continue to do it just for something to do. I once had a friend who, at a shooting range accidentally, (stupidly), shot himself in the hand with my pistol. The police responded along with the paramedics and tried to "Confiscate" my pistol. Reason? It had been 'involved in a shooting'. Okay, give me a receipt and I'll be down tomorrow to pick up my gun. No, they didn't have any receipts. I said "Then you don't take my gun" and they left without my gun. Point? The cop was trying to steal my pistol and since there were a lot of people withnessing my demand for a receipt they decided to just leave.
My point is this; once you start questioning their authority they generally change their tune. What law was being violated by your friend by transporting swords? I'll bet you can't name one.
Thanks for the soap box.

Chris.

[Iolaus]

Okay folks, now I'm going to blow your mind. As far as some "laws" go there's a good chance that they are not laws at all but only "codes". I won't go into detail unless the moderators here will allow it but firstly, a case from the Supreme Court of the state of Washington, (not Washington D.C., they have nothing to do with us), called "Self v. Rhey" found that "code" was not law. So there is argueably no crime since there is no law that is broken for violating a "code".
There is also a case from the Supreme Court of the United States called "Yick Wo v. Hopkins" that states that we as Sovereign flesh and blood men and women, (that is very important; flesh and blood), are not subject to the law which is called "code". These are interesting reading especially since the government uses a lot of "terms" which are not words. In law the "terms" person and individual generally mean corporations and the government uses these terms to confuse us into thinking that some of these codes have something to do with us.
As strange as this may sound it's true. Find out if the law in your state is actually a law or a code that has nothing to do with you and remember, if you allow the courts to fool you into admitting to be subject to these codes they'll gladly take your money.

Chris.

So,KK, you live just a few miles away from me; is that the situation in California?

[Rigged]

I have a Carrick pewter handled Skean Dhu. It's like this one, but with a black sheath.

http://dunnoon.co.uk/scottish_kilts/...?ProductID=384

The blade is pretty sharp. It's the perfect thing for opening packaging, cutting ribbon for gift-wrapping, or cutting a flower from a neighbor's rosebush to give to one's lady-love.

Push come to shove, I suppose it could also be used as a weapon of last-resort.

[KiltedKnight]

So,KK, you live just a few miles away from me; is that the situation in California?

Absolutely. There is more going on in California than in most states. Fraud by the government. You work, you pay an income tax that you are not liable for but did you know that on top of that, the "Personal Income Tax" that was instituted in 1935 in California was repealed in 1943 to take effect in 1945? It's in the law libraries but most people would rather grab that six-pack and watch the ball game than do anything about it. Did you know that there is no law in effect that creates a liability for most Americans to pay any income tax?
I know this is an off the wall post but remember this; the men that wrote our Constitution and tried to make sure that we were free from oppressive government wore KILTS! Read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, most of the names are Scottish.
If anyone thinks that I'm wrong just try to find a law that makes you liable for a tax that the Supreme Court has ruled many times applies to corporations and anyone working in a priviledged position.
I won't draw this out any further on X-marks unless by special permission of the moderators but anyone can contact me personally, I'm happy to share what I and many others already know.

Chris.

[Mike S]

Chris,
I don't think anyone is doubting the Constitutional validity behind what you have outlined (in case you haven't detected by now, I'm a gun and weapons collector and licensed to carry, so you definitely have my sympathies).

Rather, my post was meant to illustrate reality vs. expectations in the way many law enforcement agencies are likely to react to a person in full highland dress in the world we presently live.

[KiltedKnight]

Chris,
I don't think anyone is doubting the Constitutional validity behind what you have outlined (in case you haven't detected by now, I'm a gun and weapons collector and licensed to carry, so you definitely have my sympathies).

Rather, my post was meant to illustrate reality vs. expectations in the way many law enforcement agencies are likely to react to a person in full highland dress in the world we presently live.

I fully understand what you said, sorry if I sounded like I didn't. I agree with you completely but sometimes it's necessary to put some of these people in their place when they are making a mistake. For instance, an LAPD officer once accused me of wearing a 'costume' while dressed in the Scottish tuxedo,(PC) and I informed him in front of the other people that were present that what I was wearing was Scottish Attire and not a costume. I also informed him that comparatively what he was wearing was the costume since his uniform and it's use was most likely less than 40 years old and that women also wore that costume but the Kilt was hundreds of years old and was worn only by men. I told him that just becasue of incidents like this where an officer in uniform thinks that he can insult and belittle someone because he's wearing a police officers garb that the Kilt was much more resepcted than his costume would ever be. I did this in a very calm manner and he listened evry carefully and he appologized, perhaps because I was correct and there were about 15 people present at the time.
My point is that we have rights and I will study what mine are and I will stand up for what I have a God given right to do. You should all study the Common Law and then look at the administrative law and you can plainly see how they will walk all over you if you don't know your rights. The more ignorant the people get the more dangerous it gets for everyone.

Chris.

[Valencian Kilted]

COMING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION,.... I RECOMMAND RAB GORDON'S ... AND I'M ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR ONE!!!!

¡Salud!

T O N O

[David Thornton]

Ok Mike, now I'm really curious, what type of guns?
As a favor to a friend, I bought a SXS many years ago. When I took it out to see what I had, I learned it was a Charles Ingram (excelant Scottish shotgun builder). Knowing who held the rights to the name, I shot out an email and found out it was a high grade custom order originally delivered in 1909.

VK, corresponding with Rab now.

David

[Mike S]

I've got everything from 1700 Flintlocks (I actually live a stones throw from famous custom historical firearms maker Larry Williams, who's home is located on part of the 4000 acre area of land that belonged to my ancestor Colonel William Edwards who helped found this part of Western KY) to ultra modern firearms of the errr...shall we say assault variety. I also have a huge selection of antique blades and miltaria. In fact I used to co own a shop in Dallas that dealt in fine military antiques so I've been at it awhile and have the stock pile to show for it!
By the way, although I am of decidedly proud and honorable Southern stock in all regards, I'm not of the redneck persuasion should anyone form a stereotype in their imaginations.
Yes, your Ingram is almost on par with a fully Bespoke Holland and Holland or other super fine quality shotgun. Charled Ingram is one of the most coveted and collected makers of Hunting arms made in Britain. Hope you hung on to it, if you actually went ahead and gave it to your pal, let me ask "need any more best friends"?!