Martial Arts Discussion

[setboy]

first post here. i don't have a kilt yet. but MA's are something i know about.


I am a Sho Dan (1st degree black belt) in Isshinryu Karate


Raphael

[TheSp8]

I made it to Green belt in Goju Ryu Karate while in college. Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do though the instructor borrowed grappling techniques from other styles. Worked with my son's wrestling team doing freestyle. Also the mish-mash of techniques the Army calls combatives. There are other bits and pieces of styles that have been picked up here and there.

As much as I enjoyed TKD, in my opinion it has its limitations. The lack of grappling/ground fighting is the biggest. I've seen few fights that didn't end up on the ground. I also didn't like the emphasis on high kicks. I'm a firm believer in attacking the base.

Overall, I'd have to say the most effective style/technique is the one that works for you in a given situation. I try not to be tied to any one thing.

YMOS,
Tony

[I M Kilted!]

Voila!

I had to turn up... I like MMA style, I feel it has great variation and it is not a set art and many ancient and modern techniques can be incorporated into training. I like the striking aspects such as Muay-Thai and I like the ground aspects such as, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Submission Grappling. My favorite submission is the triangle choke, especially a flying-triangle choke...It is done with your legs around the oponents neck with a figure-4 lock, it is a choke so it stops the blood from flowing to the brain, its not exactly a restraint. I good restraint might be any neck crank if the person is very aggressive.

I practiced Karate for about a year, but now I am attending an MMA class that uses Erik Paulson's Combat Submission Wrestling curriculum. I would say I like MMA because its good alround and doesnt seem to be focused on only one aspect, it also seems more relaxed then some others. In a street fight, the best would probably be to run away, but Iif ambushed, I would choose MMA as it would allow you good striking to keep the attackers back; grappling would not be advisable if many opponents are attacking you because you can only focues on one opponent at a time, but a knowledge of grappling skills like throws/submissions would be useful to evade tackles or perhaps gain an upper-hand in the inevitable case that the fight goes to the ground.

I added a link for an explanition of MMA just in case some dont know MMA, perhaps you could add a link so we can see your preffered/practiced martial art
MMA INFORMATION

[Master Boid]

I agree with both saying about the ground-fighting, most fights go to ground/are over very quickly. I also agree that MMA is very handy for most types of situation and is an all-round good mix of arts to practice.

I've never really taken to Karate or TKD, preffering the more adaptable arts and I agree with the point made about the kicks in TKD, unless you were in a Jet Li or Chan film...might not work so well in a crowded bar.

In Ninjutsu we learned two techniques that you can put on if you're opponant is on the ground, using the shoulder blades to choke them (they're own shoulders blade) and there was another thing...can't remember at the moment.

[I M Kilted!]

At the gym the other day, a guy showed me a crazy-effective choke; he grabbed my arm and put it around my own nack and pulled forward and created a lock on the side opposite my hand...he hadn't finished locking and I could already feel the choke a little, he finally locked and then closed the choke and I tapped in about 2 seconds. I am trying to find it, it was extrememely powerful and it seems very easy to setup.

As I have done Karate, I know what you mean, I'm not trying to bash Karate, but in my experience, we did'nt spar or use and of the techniques in lifelike situations, some may have worked, but we seemed to concentrate on form and katas and stuff; I may still have done Karate, but I find MMA especially the grappling is more suited to my 5'7" 140lbs body.