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1st August 06, 01:33 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
It's customary for a lot of woolen mills to weave the Clark tartan with bright white lines, but the Clergy tartan with more muted grey lines. Like MacWage said, though, this is a modern distinction.
I wrote an article on the Clergy tartan for the Scottish Banner some months ago.
http://albanach.org/clergy_tartan.htm
And here is a kilt I recently made in the modern Clergy tartan (16 oz) by Lochcarron.
http://kilts.albanach.org/clergy1.jpg
Aye,
Matt
Those are EXACTLY what I had in my memory
I am planning on getting some of that very material. Matt, I just need to get a wee bit better before I'll fork over $150 for the material to make a kilt meself, but it is coming VERY soon. I am planning on getting 16 oz MacNeil modern and 16 oz Clery and I love how that one looks (just the perfect darkeness). http://kilts.albanach.org/clergy1.jpg
I'll probably get some Clark PV as my last "practice" kilt (plus it will contrast with the dark 16oz). By then I should be good.
So, that will be 20 kilts on my list. Right now I am finishing #3. Got to get going . . . I just wish each didn't take so much time!!!!
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1st August 06, 04:23 PM
#2
Prester John,
Yes, I remember trying to find that tartan for you. Check out this page:
http://www.tartanweb.org/range/house...old__rare.html
It wouldn't happen to be the one labelled "Clergy weathered" would it?
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1st August 06, 07:27 PM
#3
Matthews' Clergy looks darker that USAK Clark - or is it just the photo?
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1st August 06, 07:44 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Graham
Matthews' Clergy looks darker that USAK Clark - or is it just the photo?
I noticed that myself. I think it's just the photo, I've seen differant pics of the same tartan with wide differances in color.
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2nd August 06, 02:52 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Graham
Matthews' Clergy looks darker that USAK Clark - or is it just the photo?
I think it is the actual fabric. Most mills vary in color, but I think these are further than "normal." The 16oz Lochcarron Clergy is clearly lt. blue, while the USA KILTS PV is a white. The descriptions of clark/clergy vary somewhat in the early tartan books, as different authors tried to interpret one another. The Clery Green is yet another variation of the same thing (with green stripes this time). The absolute earliest seems to have been the blue (which I believe was more of a turquoise), which was then interpreted as either white, blue, or green. Some books even refer to Clergy, Clergy Blue, and Clergy Green.
Matt Newsome (to many Matt's here) covers it well in this article:
http://albanach.org/clergy_tartan.htm
(Any differences would be from my forgetfulness this morning (5 am here) than from understanding.)
The manufacturers likely used to different sources for the coloring. Lochcarron adopted the more original light blue, while Marton Mills used the white variation.
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2nd August 06, 05:11 AM
#6
The kilt in the picture is the Clergy modern colors, woven by Lochcarron, and is very dark. Most of the time what you see offered is the blue Clergy ancient, which uses much lighter shades of blue.
M
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2nd August 06, 06:06 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
The kilt in the picture is the Clergy modern colors, woven by Lochcarron, and is very dark. Most of the time what you see offered is the blue Clergy ancient, which uses much lighter shades of blue.
M
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know the Clergy modern was that dark.
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