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29th August 06, 09:06 PM
#91
pbpersson, Relax, it's just a kilt, enjoy it for what it is.
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29th August 06, 09:34 PM
#92
 Originally Posted by Southern Breeze
pbpersson, Relax, it's just a kilt, enjoy it for what it is. 
Aye...enough navel-gazing....bartender, another round!
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29th August 06, 10:08 PM
#93
It took 30 years for the corporate world to embrace jeans. It wasn't until the 80's people started to wear jeans to work. Thanks to Steve Jobs, he made it cool to wear a tweed jacket with a pair of jeans.
And you know what, torn jeans and T-shirts are acceptable, and no one will question you about your heritage, sexual orientation or whether you are wearing underwear. However, I don't wear torn jeans or T-shirt to my corporate job. I wear them when I off work. They are simply not appropiate for the office.
You can't blame your manager for redfining the dresscode. It sucks, but it is the reality. If you don't like it, you can always get a different job. You can always shop for a job that will allow you to wear your kilts. We all know that job is out there somewhere. You just have to find it. Don't blame your manager for not letting you wear your kilt. He doesn't owe you anything. In fact, it is the other way around. He is the manager and he has the RIGHT to tell his employees how he wants them to dress to present the company in a professional manner.
Let's face the reality here. It is not easy to explain the kilt to some one who doesn't wear it. It is like explaining why Soccer(Football) is a beautiful game to the average Americans.
Last edited by Raphael; 30th August 06 at 07:25 AM.
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30th August 06, 05:08 PM
#94
 Originally Posted by Southern Breeze
pbpersson, Relax, it's just a kilt, enjoy it for what it is. 
Phil,
This is good advice. You asked about wearing them to work and the answer was no - that's the employer's right, even though it seems unfair. Enjoy wearing your kilts when you are on your own time.
Darrell
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30th August 06, 06:06 PM
#95
Sure, you can battle for the "right" to wear the kilt to work, and you may "win" that war, but the losses my be larger on your side.
These battles usually end up with you leaving the job and therefore are not worth the trouble.
Find where you can wear the kilt, and let it go from there!
Mark Dockendorf
Left on the Right Coast
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30th August 06, 06:13 PM
#96
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
To some degree I am sensing three groups of people here:
1. I am Scottish and I wear my kilt only sometimes because I want to display my pride in my heritage, kilts are already popular.
2. I am not Scottish and I don't wear Scottish kilts but by golly I will wear what I want to wear and when I want to wear it and I don't care what anyone thinks.
3. I am not Scottish and I just think that kilts are comfortable and cool and I would like the freedom to wear them anywhere and anytime and wish they were accepted as a CHOICE for men, an alternative to trousers.
You are of course forgetting: 4. I am (at least part) Scottish and I wear my kilt to honor my heritage and I really don't care what other people think because they are comfortable and cool.
I am only half Scottish, but, my heritage is important to me, it's how I was raised. However, why be uncomfortable. I know that people say, "Well you are part scottish so you have the right to wear such things.", but, it really doesn't matter. The world is a mostly free place so it souldn't matter if you are Scottish or Irish or Welsh etc. to wear what you want.....
I'm Not here to say that everyone should wear a kilt... Honestly it's not for everyone. I only own 1 kilt at the moment, and, I will be getting more. I would like to just have pants for work and have enough kilts for regular wear, but that is my own personal choice. My friend Tim wears Kilts full time, and that seems to work for him.
I think it's pretty cool when I see other people in Kilts
Last edited by davezero; 30th August 06 at 06:24 PM.
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30th August 06, 06:25 PM
#97
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
In reality, these entities are set up to support women and visible minorities. However, It would be interesting to see what interest a kilt wearing man might generate.
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But the letter of the (Phoenix) law prohibits *any* discrimination. And there are no doubt some Phoenix bureaucrats just bored enough to get a kick out of helping a guy wear a kilt!
We've got a similar local ordinance here in Tucson, and the co. I work for is pretty adamant about avoiding even the appearance of any sort of discrimination....
- The Beertigger
"The only one, since 1969."
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30th August 06, 08:58 PM
#98
 Originally Posted by Beertigger
We've got a similar local ordinance here in Tucson, and the co. I work for is pretty adamant about avoiding even the appearance of any sort of discrimination....
I was really just asking because I was curious. Kilts are becoming more popular all the time, they are on TV and in magazines, I might just wait a year or so and approach this at a later date.
REALLY I would MUCH rather fight the battle of the shopping malls and let someone else be the pioneer at work. 
.....and yes I know it is not supposed to be a crusade and I'm just supposed to enjoy myself......but what if I worked 12 hours a day, had a three hour commute, and expected to get eight hours of sleep each night?
Then my work day WOULD be my life and if I was never allowed to wear kilts at work (while women could wear whatever they wanted) then it wouldn't make sense to even think about wearing kilts at all.
So....while many of you are wishing that kilts never catch on and never become popular I'm hoping that someday men can wear something other than boring pants every day, even in conservative companies.
In the meantime, I am having my fun and I'm happy.
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30th August 06, 09:23 PM
#99
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
In the meantime, I am having my fun and I'm happy. 
*That* would be the important thing....
- The Beertigger
"The only one, since 1969."
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30th August 06, 09:36 PM
#100
Geez, this thread has sure gotten off-course from the original question...
If kilts never really catch on, that's fine by me. I enjoy being unique & standing out from the crowd - I always have. Right now, kilts fit in well with that way of livin'.
If kilts do ever catch on (I ain't holdin' my breath), I'll still wear 'em 'cuz there so dang comfortable!
Happiness? I'd settle for being less annoyed!!!
"I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused." - Declan MacManus
Member of the Clan Donnachaidh Society
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