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    It seems to me that maybe the lady is the one who needs psychiatric help. Its not her place to tell you what you should wear. You don't need a so called friend who isn't going to be comfortable with what you wear. Having said that, while I would probably have worn a kilt to a similar event, I'd probably have worn it with a casual top and I wouldn't have embellished it with the full Jacobite outfit.
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    Seems to me this "friend" is more interested in themselves and their perceptions than you. You should do what you feel comfortable in, shame you had to have your night spoiled like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cessna152towser
    It seems to me that maybe the lady is the one who needs psychiatric help. Its not her place to tell you what you should wear. You don't need a so called friend who isn't going to be comfortable with what you wear. Having said that, while I would probably have worn a kilt to a similar event, I'd probably have worn it with a casual top and I wouldn't have embellished it with the full Jacobite outfit.
    I would have to agree. And the full outfit wouldn't be that comfortable IMHO.

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    Binx:
    I would say that depends on what you describe as "the full outfit." There are many ways to portray a jacobite, and not all of them are great kilt+waist coat+coat+ bonnet+ tartan hose+brogues+frilly shirt+cravat. Did I miss anything there? One could wear a felidh beag, plus a nice shirt, and perhaps a cravat and a clean waist coat, and maybe a bonnet along with some period correct brogues and hose, and look very presentable, while not carrying around a ton of woolen products! Although if you were portraying a jacobite, and not just a well off clansman, the white cockade is sort of important (from what I have read).

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    Panache has a point ,but with friends like that who needs enemas :rolleyes:

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    Perhaps you meant Burqa?
    We also would have accepted chador or hijab.


    The person will have an underlying tendency to be outspoken anyway,
    -He/she is very likely a conformist and,
    -believes everyone else should be a conformist and,
    -believes it is their place to influence others to their ideals.

    He/she may also be emotionally affected with feelings of
    -sexual intrigue and/or
    -embarrassment and/or
    -anger and/or
    -levity
    from your bold and non-standard attire.
    And you just never know. This description fits my mother to a T, yet she keeps trying to talk her boyfriend into wearing a kilt.

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    I think you looked dashing, and that your "friend" is quite rude.

    Vive et le vive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cessna152towser
    It seems to me that maybe the lady is the one who needs psychiatric help. Its not her place to tell you what you should wear. You don't need a so called friend who isn't going to be comfortable with what you wear. Having said that, while I would probably have worn a kilt to a similar event, I'd probably have worn it with a casual top and I wouldn't have embellished it with the full Jacobite outfit.
    I am afraid that I too have to agree with what Alex says. There is a time and a place for everything, and I don't really see the Jacobite kit as being appropriate for the cinema - no matter how comfortable it might be. Actually, I very much like the Jacobite shirt worn with a leather Potaine and I admit it is very comfortable to wear, but I seldom do because it is rather 'costumey' and over the top.

    As for whether your friend should have been so outspoken: perhaps not, but true friends should be able to say anything to each other. I can only think that she was embarrassed to have been escorted by one so flamboyantly dressed.
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    Parpin:
    What all were you wearing as part of your jacobite outfit by the way?

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    I've often wondered what is the root cause of the remarks some people utter. Your friend could simply be a very socially conservative person who believes that everybody and everything belongs in categories and columns and rows. When we break the rules of conformity, we must set in motion a whole array of little emotional responses within other people. Depending on the person, many won't care at all... others may be profoundly affected. Among those many if not most will pass you by with little more than a double take or a sideways glance. A few, like your friend, are more inclined to speak out.

    With absolutely no data to back it up, I suspect that the following conditions come into play for those people...


    The person will have an underlying tendency to be outspoken anyway,
    -He/she is very likely a conformist and,
    -believes everyone else should be a conformist and,
    -believes it is their place to influence others to their ideals.

    He/she may also be emotionally affected with feelings of
    -sexual intrigue and/or
    -embarrassment and/or
    -anger and/or
    -levity
    from your bold and non-standard attire.

    This is something they probably don't understand themselves, but they're making sure you know that they've been affected.

    Bottom line... it's ultimately their problem problem to resolve.

    blu

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