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28th September 06, 07:12 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by David Thornton
I had a similar moment at my first games. It so put me off Clan Donald that I now mostly wear Cameron & Angus district kilts...
David
That's a shame. I think part of the point here is that we shouldn't let one or two (or 20 for that matter) bad apples spoil the barrel for us. I've been going to games for over 15 years now and have to say that even though this example was extreme, it was rare. All of the other folks at the Clan Donald tent were incredibly gracious. I can't even say for certain that the individual in question was officially "working" the booth, as members of the clan usually enjoy free access to the tent. He could have been just another attendee who happened to be behind the booth at the time of the incident. Having said all that, it was embarrassing for me to have someone from Clan Donald act in such a foolish manner. I know it affected my friends perception of the clan.
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28th September 06, 08:43 AM
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I bet that today McDonalds drink Campbell's soup and the Campbells eat McDonald's burgers....
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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28th September 06, 08:56 AM
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Gentlemen of Campbell descent have even married ladies of MacDonald descent, the two clans have co-existed peacefully in my household for over 28 years.
You really need to read the historical accounts of the Massacre at Glencoe to understand all of the facts. The government troops were commanded by a Campbell of Glenlyon and were ordered by the King to kill the MacDonalds.
As Mike notes the blame for the Lamont Massacre lies on the shoulders on the Duke of Argyll, he was beheaded for the deed 16 years later. The Lamont Massacre has never achieved the historical notoriety that Glencoe has.
It is best to let bygones be bygones, we live in a much more civilized world now.
Last edited by Cawdorian; 28th September 06 at 09:01 AM.
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28th September 06, 09:31 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Cawdorian
we live in a much more civilized world now.
I disagree. The barbarity is just more sophisticated and subtle, but certainly no more civilized.
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28th September 06, 11:02 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Cawdorian
As Mike notes the blame for the Lamont Massacre lies on the shoulders on the Duke of Argyll, he was beheaded for the deed 16 years later. The Lamont Massacre has never achieved the historical notoriety that Glencoe has.
38 people killed at Glen Coe, under cover of darkness.
Over 200 people killed at Ascog, Toward and Dunoon, and this after Ardkinglas, Strachur, Dunstaffnage and Inverawe had signed terms of capitulation with James Lamont, guaranteeing safe passage for Lamont and his kin (strangely enough with one, possible haven being with Sir Alexander MacDonald!!).
It's a pity, but far too many people have only two steps of Scottish history research. Step one is to figure out which tartan is 'theirs' and step two is to determine how many of their family 'came out' for BPC at Drummossie Moor.
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