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    Restriction on wearing tartan "the Devil's oath"

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo
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    Listen, Men!

    ...and here is the Proclomation of Repeal of the Act of Proscription, 1 July 1782:

    "Listen Men. This is bringing before all the Sons of the Gael, the King and Parliament of Britain have forever abolished the act against the Highland Dress; which came down to the Clans from the beginning of the world to the year 1746. This must bring great joy to every Highland Heart. You are no longer bound down to the unmanly dress of the Lowlander. This is declaring to every Man, young and old, simple and gentle, that they may after this put on and wear the Truis, the Little Kilt, the Coat, and the Striped Hose, as also the Belted Plaid, without fear of the Law of the Realm or the spite of the enemies."

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    PS: Thread moved to "heraldry & tartans" section!

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    Without this veering off into a discussion on faith, one has to have some understanding of just how serious the words, 'may I be killed in battle as a coward, and lie without burial in a strange land', truly were to them. To lie without burial, away from their own families was more of an abomination than they were willing to consider.

    Yesterday, I was at a commemoration festival, to mark the time when the French traders would canoe south for the winter and trade with the Native American tribes in this area. It is held at the site of an old French fort, built in 1717. The festival marks a feast that was always held at the time of the hunter's moon, which drew all inhabitants of the area together.

    One of the re-enactor's groups is a local unit of the 42nd Royal Highlanders. As I watched that unit march in, during the opening ceremonies, I couldn't help but think of how they also served in Scotland, enforcing the Act of Proscription amongst their own countrymen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1
    Without this veering off into a discussion on faith, one has to have some understanding of just how serious the words, 'may I be killed in battle as a coward, and lie without burial in a strange land', truly were to them. To lie without burial, away from their own families was more of an abomination than they were willing to consider.

    Yesterday, I was at a commemoration festival, to mark the time when the French traders would canoe south for the winter and trade with the Native American tribes in this area. It is held at the site of an old French fort, built in 1717. The festival marks a feast that was always held at the time of the hunter's moon, which drew all inhabitants of the area together.

    One of the re-enactor's groups is a local unit of the 42nd Royal Highlanders. As I watched that unit march in, during the opening ceremonies, I couldn't help but think of how they also served in Scotland, enforcing the Act of Proscription amongst their own countrymen.


    So true Mike.

    On a side note, someone needs to get that big fella in the back sorted out!

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    The Watch...

    Mike: Was the Watch back from the European wars long enough to enforce the Proscription? If so, it was only for a couple of years, because they went overseas to the American colonies in 1756 to fight in the French & Indian Wars, and then returned again in the 1770's for the American Revolution.

    Besides, the "Butcher" didn't really trust ANY Scots, loyal or no. The Watch proved him wrong at Fontenoy, of course, but one of the reasons why they were sent to Europe was to keep them out of Scotland, especially after the 1743 mutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom
    As some of you are aware, the wearing of tartan and highland dress was banned in Scotland, after the 45 rebellion but!! are you aware that some had to take an oath supporting a ban??? The worst fate for a Highlander was to die or be killed in a foriegn land and lie buried for eternity, away fom the land of his clan and the burial place of his forefathers
    Below is a copy of the oath!!!

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    I, _______________, do swear, as I shall answer to God at the great day of Judgement, I have not, nor shall have in my possession any gun, sword, pistol or arm whatsoever, and never to use tartan plaid, or any part of the Highland Garb; and if I do so -- may I be cursed in my undertakings, family and property, may I be killed in battle as a coward, and lie without burial in a strange land, far from the graves of my forefathers and kindred; may all this come across me if I break my oath."
    What is the source for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom
    The worst fate for a Highlander was to die or be killed in a foriegn land and lie buried for eternity, away fom the land of his clan and the burial place of his forefathers
    I always thought that it was quite honorable to die in battle. Is this a myth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloitpiper
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    Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom
    The worst fate for a Highlander was to die or be killed in a foriegn land and lie buried for eternity, away fom the land of his clan and the burial place of his forefathers



    I always thought that it was quite honorable to die in battle. Is this a myth?


    I always thought that it was quite honorable to die in battle. Is this a myth?

    The concern in this situation is to lie dead and unburied in a land NOT their own... away from their clan. Not so much the "dying for the cause" but what happened to their body afterwards....

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    Interesting Tom, what a terrible oath to swear. I find it hard to believe how any Scot could, surely it is a denial of all that is Scottish!, well certainly the tartan clause.

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    Of course there is also the dying as a coward part, along with the whole in a land not your own thing. That's two very important aspects. For someone with a sense of martial pride, dying as a coward would be a grave insult indeed.

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