Gaelic Speakers

**McClef** · 5th December 06, 12:23 PM

"dubh du black "

But pronunciation is different - du in Welsh is pronounced "dee".

But certainly there are one or two more related words than I thought!

**slohairt** · 5th December 06, 01:44 PM

Yes, the pronunciation is different. In fact, that word also illustrates differences in the way Irish and Scottish Gaelic are pronounced. Dubh is usually pronounced "duv" in Irish and "doo" in Scottish Gaelic (and I think Manx, too)

CYMRU RHYDD!

Is mise le meas,

Seán Liosliath Ó hAirt

**Mike1** · 5th December 06, 02:16 PM

If you're hunting a Scots Gaelic speaker An t-Ileach is your man.

**McClef** · 5th December 06, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by slohairt

Yes, the pronunciation is different. In fact, that word also illustrates differences in the way Irish and Scottish Gaelic are pronounced. Dubh is usually pronounced "duv" in Irish and "doo" in Scottish Gaelic (and I think Manx, too)

CYMRU RHYDD!

Is mise le meas,

Seán Liosliath Ó hAirt

bh is one of several ways of rendering a v in Gallic too - as in Inbhirniss (Inverness) - the delights of Gallic spelling and pronunciation are even more complicated than that of the Welsh!

Diolch am mynegiad CYMRU RHYDD

CYMRU AM BYTH hefyd!

and (wrth gwrs)

ALBA GU BRATH!

**Frank MacDuffy** · 5th December 06, 03:33 PM

So would anyone have any recommendations for a website that teaches Scot's Gaelic? I found one site (think it had something to do with BBC) but I thought that someone here might know a good one. Any suggestions?

**JimB** · 5th December 06, 03:40 PM

This isn't a bad one...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/alba/f...eag_air_bheag/

**slohairt** · 5th December 06, 05:40 PM

True, McClef. But Welsh has the mighty "Ll" which for many people proves impossible to pronounce. Sadly we've just about reached the end of my Welsh vocabularly (short as it is). My father-in-law is from Wales and is a Welsh-speaker. Perhaps I should start learning.

Is mise le meas,

Siôn Ap Arth!

**Mike1** · 5th December 06, 05:57 PM

The Save Gaelic site can be a good one, so long as you have thick skin.

If you're really serious, there is always Sabhal Mòr Ostaig, Scotland's only Gaelic college. They do distance learning, with telephone conference calls. A pal of mine near Dunblane has participated in their courses.

**McClef** · 5th December 06, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by slohairt

True, McClef. But Welsh has the mighty "Ll" which for many people proves impossible to pronounce. Sadly we've just about reached the end of my Welsh vocabularly (short as it is). My father-in-law is from Wales and is a Welsh-speaker. Perhaps I should start learning.

Is mise le meas,

Siôn Ap Arth!

True slohairt but the main key is keeping plenty of phlegm in the throat