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8th December 06, 11:58 AM
#11
Tapadh leibh
Thank you for the kind welcome Jake. I currently reside in Long Beach, Calif..
Slainte,
Deasan
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8th December 06, 12:24 PM
#12
Montrose wasn't shown to be giving Archie any money which is probably why Archie compounded with the Factor for the robbery and murder.
Also Montrose shows no emotion at Archie's demise. The rest of us are clapping and cheering!
So I don't think he was the father
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8th December 06, 12:33 PM
#13
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by McClef
Montrose wasn't shown to be giving Archie any money
But Montrose did give him room, board, and a quiet place where he could live down the life he had led in the south.
Also Montrose shows no emotion at Archie's demise.
Well, he would have been disappointed in Cunningham if he had been legitimate; being a bastard compounded that.
Add my vote to the father/son camp.
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8th December 06, 12:44 PM
#14
Montrose shows no emotion at Archie's demise. The rest of us are clapping and cheering!
I can assure you that the smarmy sassenach Archie Cunningham in the film is absolutely NO RELATION. My Cunningham ancestry derives from the Cunninghams of North Ayshire and Renfrewshire.
Alex Cunningham
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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8th December 06, 04:11 PM
#15
I spent a few minutes at lunchtime with my DVD player and the fast forward button on the remote.
Earlier in the movie, Archie is killing a bottle while schmoozing with Betty, a housemaid. He says that his mother had once narrowed "his paternity down to three candidates" and he listed them. None of the three listed was his uncle, Montrose. When Montrose retrieved the locket from the dead Archie, he did so wordlessly, probably angry at the embarrassment, angry at losing the bet, but also likely to be relieved of guardian duties.
I've always considered Archie as the bastard nephew, but not Montrose's own son.
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8th December 06, 05:48 PM
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Another Rob Roy aside. I absolutely love the duel between Cunningham and Rob Roy. As a former fencer I was very impressed with the moves and the strategies employed by both combatants. It also serves as a quick demonstration as to why the broadsword gave way to the rapier, and in turn the courtsword. Speed defeats strength, and the slim quick swordsman defeats the big brawny one (unless the slim swordsman gets cocky, which we always do when we are beating the big brawny guy )
Cheers
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Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
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8th December 06, 05:51 PM
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Interesting that Raibeart 'Rab Ruadh' MacGriogair's name would come up when it has. December 28 will mark the 272nd anniversary of his death. I was fortunate enough to have been asked to do a graveside service during a Jacobite commemoration to MacGriogair, December last.
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8th December 06, 05:58 PM
#18
I happened to throw Rob Roy in the DVD player last night. It was the first time in the half dozen viewings that I even noticed he pulled the locket at the end. And now you guys are talking about it.
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8th December 06, 06:39 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Mike1
Interesting that Raibeart 'Rab Ruadh' MacGriogair's name would come up when it has. December 28 will mark the 272nd anniversary of his death. I was fortunate enough to have been asked to do a graveside service during a Jacobite commemoration to MacGriogair, December last.
I have also been to the graveside back in 2000. I didn't know where it was, but we just "stubbled upon it." I was VERY GLAD we did, as I have now seen Blaqquider (sp?) quite a few times since!
I actually have a copy of:
"David Stevenson has published The Hunt For Rob Roy: The Man and the Myths, which represents the first academic biography of this character to appear in print."
THANKS for mentioning that!!
Its very good and well done, though I only read a bit over a hundred or so pages before I had to lay it aside and havn't had a chance to continue.
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8th December 06, 07:22 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MacWage
I have also been to the graveside back in 2000. I didn't know where it was, but we just "stubbled upon it." I was VERY GLAD we did, as I have now seen Blaqquider (sp?) quite a few times since!
It was a rather cold day and we marched from Kingshouse to Balquhidder and back. My teeth were chattering by the time we made it back to the Kings House Hotel, where I cozied up to the fireplace in the Rob Roy Bar.
![](http://www.aztech.ws/images/scotland2/12290502st.jpg)
We had a proper evening's entertainment, as Albannach were in the house, but we had to call it a night around midnight, as we were getting some heavy snow. We ended up having to detour off, somewhere around Callander, as the road was closed between there and Doune, as we made our way back to the Alloa/Tillicoultry area.
![](http://www.aztech.ws/images/scotland2/12290520st.jpg)
It didn't seem as if it was that much snow to me, but our bus driver was near fit to be tied with it.
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