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    Where's the Glasgow teenager thread gone and why?

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    I doubt it was removed because of the original topic... but rather the heated historical debate that broke out between Nanook and Watersheal (I think that's who it was)... Every once in a while some one had decided to take a potshot and it really wasn't going any where...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom View Post
    Where has the Glasgow teenager thread gone and why was it removed?? was it removed because a female Glasgow teanager expressed her view regarding Americans wearing the kilt?? and has some-one taken exception to her views? I saw nothing remotely abusive or derogatory in the thread, Why are moderators here so quick to stifle healthy debate by pressing a delete button:confused: I hate heavy handed moderating especially when there is no solid reasoning behind it , it puts me off returning to a number of sites and just out of curiosty how many mod's are native born Scots or whats the percentage??, and is the heavy moderating a cultural thing??

    A slightly older Glaswegian than the female teenager

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    Tom,

    The thread was temporarily removed because a number of members were concerned that it had gone "off-topic". The thread is being reviewed by the Moderators because those members expressed their concerns, and that is something we cannot ignore. Once we make our decision, we will either restore the thread or lock it down and send to the penalty box.

    Rest assured it was just not arbitrarily deleted; In fact, the thread was actually allowed to stay up for quite a while and was not deleted when the thread began to turn "personal".

    I hope you can understand and respect our decision.

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    I'd like to weigh in here. I think the mods do a great job here. They give us a lot of breathing room and only step in with the moderation when absolutely necessary. Long before I joined this forum, I used to dwell in the anarchic forest of posts that is Usenet. Threads there would stray far off topic and degenerate into flame wars. Here, we have a dedicated group of mods who take the time out of their schedules to make this a pleasant place to be. Whatever they decide to do with that thread or any other, I'd like to give them a vote of thanks for making this my favorite internet community to participate in.

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    Tom,

    We are reviewing the thread and looking at our options. One option is to delete the "offending" posts and restore the thread. I think all of the Mods would agree that there was some good posts in this one and we want to come up with a solution that will please the majority of folks, which can be no easy task for a moderator at times.

    Again, I am sincerely sorry we have offended you, but as moderators (and I hope good ones) we have to follow the rules and review questionable posts and/or threads -- and that means sometimes taking them down temporarily so the mods can review the situation and not have the personal comments continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey View Post
    I'd like to weigh in here. I think the mods do a great job here. They give us a lot of breathing room and only step in with the moderation when absolutely necessary. Long before I joined this forum, I used to dwell in the anarchic forest of posts that is Usenet. Threads there would stray far off topic and degenerate into flame wars. Here, we have a dedicated group of mods who take the time out of their schedules to make this a pleasant place to be. Whatever they decide to do with that thread or any other, I'd like to give them a vote of thanks for making this my favorite internet community to participate in.
    Charles, I couldn't agree with you more.

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    Hi Todd
    I'm not offended I'm a Scot with broad shouders and hold certain things dear!! one is being able to express myself without being patronised?? Quote" please re-read my post"end Quote I read your post and fully understood what you were conveying to me I have two websites which deal with more contraversial topics than this?? Moderation is a difficult job with little thanks involved?? overall this site is well moderated and those involved do a great job. Can you find out how many Mods are from Scotland, this is the third time asking?????

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    Tom,

    While this board has a very diverse membership from many countries it's actually based in the United States. While several of the MODs have very strong ties to Scotland I don't think any of them currently live there.

    And give them some time to work on that thread - after all, it is a rather major family oriented holiday. Cheers.
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    Moderate Moderation.

    I have been to some sites that have no moderators. Those sites suck.

    I have been to sites with hypermoderation which limits debates to the point that nothing interesting ever gets discussed.

    Our problem here is that we have kilts which pull up talk of politics, fashon, sex, history, quality and price issues. Each and every one of those will cause some debate looser to become offended and bellyache to the moderators.

    Moderators take action based on complaints. Ya know the sqeaky wheel gets the grease?

    So what is the right answer? All or nothing, well neither of those. How about we ask the moderators to simply remove posts containing personal attacks and blatant advertising and be moderate in their moderation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain View Post
    I doubt it was removed because of the original topic... but rather the heated historical debate that broke out between Nanook and Watersheal (I think that's who it was)... Every once in a while some one had decided to take a potshot and it really wasn't going any where...
    I hope my discussion was not the cause. I don't think either of us were "heated". There were a few hecklers in the pews but they were (from my perspective as subject) dainty and dull. It was a discussion which, at its core, was if, from the birds eye of contemporary Glasgow youth, the kilt can be casual (in contrast to more conscious dress)--- as she felt was advocated by some Americans. A historical perspective to the kilt and highland garb, especially in its development as a symbol of Scottish tradition and ceremony is, in this context, not extraneous. It was in the "General Kilt Talk" area.

    Its, of course, not "my house" and I'm new here and am not related to any of the locals so I might be riding the wrong horse...

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