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18th February 07, 09:20 PM
#1
what's the best spelling?
I realize there are probably several spellings for the traditional black dagger but which, do you think is the most used (or best used?). I've seen it written two ways...
sgian dubh
or
skean dhu
Which one do you think is best? (I'm partial to the first, but I thought I'd ask you...)
--Ann
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18th February 07, 09:31 PM
#2
I like
sgian dubh
its just the way I have almost always seen it.
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18th February 07, 09:41 PM
#3
Likewise, I almost always have seen it as Sgian Dubh
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18th February 07, 09:45 PM
#4
Ditto with Sgian Dubh. Where'd that other spelling come from?
Welcome, by the way, to the group!
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18th February 07, 09:48 PM
#5
The second spelling is just someone trying to spell it phonetically.
Adam
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18th February 07, 10:06 PM
#6
You see it both ways on ebay, I tend to spell it the first way.
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18th February 07, 10:48 PM
#7
Skeen Doob! Ha! J/K, I've always seen in sgian dubh
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19th February 07, 12:46 AM
#8
Yeah I agree with the others. It's sgian dubh.
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19th February 07, 01:13 AM
#9
frae Wikipedia...
The Sgian Dubh (pronounced "skee(a)n doo", IPA /ski:n du:/, or lightly diphthongised /skiən/) is a ceremonial dagger (Gaelic sgian) worn as part of the modern Scottish Highland dress along with the kilt. It is worn tucked into the hose with only the pommel visible.
Etymology
The name comes from the Gaelic meaning "black knife", where "black" may refer to the usual colour of the handle of the knife. It is also suggested that "black" means secret, or hidden, as in the word blackmail. This is based on the stories and theories surrounding the knife's origin and the meaning of "Dubh" in Gaelic.
Origins
The sgian dubh may have evolved from the sgian achlais, a dagger that could be concealed under the armpit. Used by the Scots of the 17th and 18th centuries, this knife was slightly larger than the average modern sgian dubh and was carried in the upper sleeve or lining of the body of the jacket.
Courtesy and etiquette would demand that when entering the home of a friend, any concealed weapons would be revealed. It follows that the sgian achlais would be removed from its hiding-place and displayed in the stocking top held securely by the garters.
The sgian dubh also resembles the small skinning knife that is part of the typical set of hunting knives. These sets contain a butchering knife with a 9-10 inch blade, and a skinner with a blade of about 4 inches. These knives usually had antler handles, as do many early sgian dubhs. The larger knife is likely the ancestor of the modern dirk.
The sgian dubh can be seen in portraits of kilted men of the mid 1800s. A portrait by Sir Henry Raeburn of Colonel Alasdair Ranaldson MacDonell of Glengarry hangs in the National Gallery of Scotland; it shows hanging from his belt on his right hand side a sheath holding nested hunting knives, and visible at the top of his right stocking what appears to be a nested set of two sgian dubhs. A similar sgian dubh is in the collection of The National Museum of Antiquities of Scotland.
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19th February 07, 04:17 AM
#10
P1M has hit the nail right on the thumb.
Although there are several spellings, only one is correct. If you are going to refer to the knife in the Gaelic, it is spelled sgian dubh.
The problem with relying on phonetic spelling is we are not properly teaching those that follow. What happens when we have an entire generation thinking that kat, dawg and pleeze are spelled correctly? It seems we already have a generation or two that think the words their, they're and there are completely and seamlessly interchangeable.
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