Kilt Jackets

[scoutniagara]

Lovely outfits, DaveDove. ...and no, that's not an invitation for dinner. ;)

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Rocky is right that the names of these jackets can be awefully confusing. "Argyle" is often used as a general name for this particular cut of jacket. Made from a tweed, or a lighter color worsted wool, it is suitable for day wear (and is often just called a "Day wear jacket"). Made from black or another dark color it can be worn more formally.

The Argyle jacket is usually made with guantlett cuffs (like in Bob's picture). However, it can also be made with Braemar cuffs (like in Dave's picture), which is the same style cuff as used on the Prince Charlie jacket. Lastly, it can be made with Craill cuffs, which is just another name for a plain cuff. See the picture of the jacket I'm currently Jonesing for here:
http://blog.albanach.org/2007/02/jon...lt-jacket.html

Often the jackets are referred to simply by their cuff style. So when you say "Argyle" jacket it is assumed you mean a guantlett cuff. With a different cuff you'd call it a Braemar jacket or a Craill jacket.

But you cannot assume this to always be the case. For instance, the jacket pictured in my blog is not called a "Craill jacket" by the makers, but a "Modern kilt jacket." And the House of Edgar sells what they call a "Craill jacket" which is simply a charcoal grey jacket with Braemar cuffs. And Edgar's Argyle jackets come standard with a plain cuff, not a guantlett cuff.

So, the moral of the story is that you cannot make any assumptions when a particular retailer or manufacturer uses terms like Argyle, Braemar, or Craill. It's best to always ask for specific details about the item (or better yet see a picture -- or best yet, see a sample in person) before you buy.

Aye,
Matt

[Riverkilt]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Rocky and Matt....I've been so confused...and Matt's right about ordering on line.

All that was complicated by me being a weirdo body size so the off the rack jackets weren't an option. To get the belly size needed the sleeves would be way to long and the length way to long.

Kathy Lare offered to get a jacket for me based on what I was wanting. She found some options then I decided to go with what Lochcarron calls "Jacket : Argyll : Tweed : Grey Lovet.

The most important part for me was getting the jacket sewn to my own measurements, which included Collar to waist, Sleeve, Chest, and Waist sizes.

I like it so well, I want more in more colors. Cost to me was $334.24 USD which I thought was VERY good for a custom fit jacket.

So, for the confused and non-standard sized like me, there is my favorite option: trust your kiltmaker.

Ron

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Ron,

Just in case you needed to feel even better about your purchase, I also offer custom made Lochcarron tweed jackets in the STM gift shop, so I know what they cost wholesale. Let me just tell you that you got a very, very good price. Kathy must reeeaaaallllly like you. Of course, ordering a new kilt from her once per month probably doesn't hurt. :-) Nice to know she treats her customers well.

M

[Riverkilt]

Well, um...she's sewing up #7 for me soon...thanks for that feedback...she just quietly does things. A very gracious lady. Thing I like about you kiltmaker craftsman types is we confused can bring our ideas to you folks and somehow the cloth is acquired and the kilt made up...or a jacket that fits.

If I've learned one thing, its trust your kiltmaker.

Ron

[Tattoo Bradley]

Rock and Matt, THANK YOU! I had figured out the different terms (for the most part) but the "crail" was the one that through me off. Thanks for the insite.

[The Wizard of BC]

Shamelessly stolen from Burnetts & Struths Catalog.
I had to enlarge it a lot but it gives you the idea.

[SoldierSpike]

Thanks for all the responses, it's been a big help. Now I just have to find the funding for one.

Marc

[freddie]

[QUOTE=M. A. C. Newsome;338914]Rocky is right that the names of these jackets can be awefully confusing. "Argyle" is often used as a general name for this particular cut of jacket. Made from a tweed, or a lighter color worsted wool, it is suitable for day wear (and is often just called a "Day wear jacket"). Made from black or another dark color it can be worn more formally.

The Argyle jacket is usually made with guantlett cuffs (like in Bob's picture).

This has always been my understanding and is why I prefer the 'Argyle' jacket to the other styles. In fact if I ordered an 'Argyle' jacket and received one with anything other than gauntlet cuffs I'd send it back.