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7th March 07, 10:38 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by IEScotsman
This seems hypocritical to me. You can't ask someone to like something and then get upset when they like it.
No you can't, but I don't think Cloves was being hypocritical, only honest.
What we share with each other on this forum is miniscule compared to the rest of the world. We are a select group who enjoy the pleasures of kilts. Even within this forum we are still pretty much being individuals in the world. When new members join we encourage and advise them in to our world. The forum grows and more people are kilted.
Every day there is a posting from a newbie saying I just received my first kilt. We pat them on the back and welcome him to X-Marks. We ask them when they're ordering their next kilt. Our family grows a little every day, and in turn our world gets a little smaller. What's happening to Cloves happens to all of us. We are mourning our waning uniqueness, the loss of a little bit of individuality.
No you can't ask someone to like something and then get upset when they like it. But we do, this is a just small part of what defines us.
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7th March 07, 11:21 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
No you can't, but I don't think Cloves was being hypocritical, only honest.
What we share with each other on this forum is miniscule compared to the rest of the world. We are a select group who enjoy the pleasures of kilts. Even within this forum we are still pretty much being individuals in the world. When new members join we encourage and advise them in to our world. The forum grows and more people are kilted.
Every day there is a posting from a newbie saying I just received my first kilt. We pat them on the back and welcome him to X-Marks. We ask them when they're ordering their next kilt. Our family grows a little every day, and in turn our world gets a little smaller. What's happening to Cloves happens to all of us. We are mourning our waning uniqueness, the loss of a little bit of individuality.
No you can't ask someone to like something and then get upset when they like it. But we do, this is a just small part of what defines us.
I'm not attacking cloves for her opinion. I'm simply stating that her actions contradict. And while both may be honest, they are also hypocritical.
And why would you mourn when more join our kilted ranks? Shouldn't you be happy? After all, if you are on X Marks to celebrate the kilt and discuss it with others, I would think you would embrace those on the same path.
I'm sure I'm coming off as a "curmudgeon" (stolen from another thread), but I'm only trying to say that if you love something and seek to share it, you should not be dismayed when that love is returned. Be happy about it!
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8th March 07, 09:37 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by IEScotsman
I'm sure I'm coming off as a "curmudgeon" (stolen from another thread), but I'm only trying to say that if you love something and seek to share it, you should not be dismayed when that love is returned. Be happy about it! 
Why does this statement remind me of my ex-wife?
Chris.
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8th March 07, 10:01 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by IEScotsman
I'm only trying to say that if you love something and seek to share it, you should not be dismayed when that love is returned.
The Portuguese have a word for this: "SAUDADE." It's so prevalent, it's a part of their national identity. It doesn't translate well to English, but the closest way to explain it seems to be "a feeling of longing for something that one is fond of, which is gone, but might return in a distant future. It often carries a fatalist tone and a repressed knowledge that the object of longing might really never return."
Although I'm not Portuguese, I absolutely understand this. One is left with very conflicting feelings, and although they're dichotomous, I'd hesitate to call them hypocritical.
So I often feel saudade for music, for kilts, for the "old" army, and especially for specific people.
I'd never presume to speak for Cloves (or anyone else), but this sounds to me like what she's experiencing and describing.
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