Where to wear the Glengarry??

[Fearnest]

Going back to the original question (and I know I'm not going to win any friends here), my response in you should only wear it if your job entails asking,"Do you want fries with that?". I felt the same way about the stupid garrison cap I had to wear in the army as well. I just don't like the look.

Adam

Thanks for the steer back onto the topic - and I'll agree with your comment on the garrison cap! NOT my favorite cap!

[Panache]

When I’m in doubt or have a question in regards to a matter of etiquette I always refer to Miss Manners as the ultimate authority, but then again I am prone to some Victorian tendencies. I imagine that how and where we are raised shapes our views on such matters of what constitutes good manners and courtesy. As an American and hat lover I would wear one in doors as much as I would fail to doff it in the presence of a Lady, which is too say, never.

As arrogcow, noted getting back to the actual question asked …

I thought glengarries were really comical looking in the catalogues, but then I saw them being worn in person at a Highland Games. My mind changed and I thought they looked really smart. I think that they take a little more flair to pull off than a balmoral. I bought my black glengarry with white and red dicing and a red torrie from Sportkilt. I decorated it with a lovely “Neveren” brooch from the Celtic Croft and I think it’s smashing. Each to their own.

Cheers

Jamie

[pdcorlis]

I save my Glengarry for more formal occasions - in fact I wear a black one with an XMarks pin instead of a mortar board for graduation ceremonies here at the college where I teach. I wear my navy blue Balmoral almost daily and after two years its starting to have that nice "Golly" worn-in look.

As others have said - whatever melts your wax...

[Mike1]

For you its a form of expressing "courtesy" and "respect". To others its a sign of submission, surrender and others still a act of meekness, humility or..

And that was me, thinking a show of respect would require one to humble one's self, thereby indicating the superiority of the other party. One of us has obviously lost the plot.

What a terrible burden you must bear, equating meek with weak.

I believe cherokeesix was asking if there were any particular dress codes pertaining to the wearing of a Glengarry. Does anyone have any further and on-topic replies for him?

[Celtic Amazon Goddess]

i would have to agree with some of the other members it's totaly up to you. some people where brought up to remove there's when indoors others where not. i would say go with your gut under different circumstances.

[cherokeesix]

Thank you all who threw in their ideas. I don't usually wear hats but being out in the sun at the upcoming games just had me worried. I guess you will just have to stop by the Tent MacMillan to see how I decided. You can bet that whatever it is, there will be a smiling Scot below it with a cold Guiness in his hand. You guys are great!

Patrick

[Nanook]

And that was me, thinking a show of respect would require one to humble one's self,

The acts of bowing or dipping a national flag too come to mind. U.S. custom, for instance, is to dip the flag only for President and no one else. Boorishness? Is the refusal to bow down before man or object set forth in Deuteronomy the mark of disrespect or the expression of ultimate respect for G-d over the arrogance of man? It it is your choice to bow or not but to rub your nose at those that don't (or refuse) is an internalization of patterns of cultural hegemony of the kind instrumentalized to oppress, expulse and even eliminate "others". You should be more than aware of these mechanism given your interest in Scottish nationalism.

thereby indicating the superiority of the other party.

Are we slaves or feedmen? To demand or even expect subjugation to an envisioned "superiority of the other party" is nothing short of total submission. Respect is only possible among peers.

One of us has obviously lost the plot.

Perhaps. (or the deeper cultural and historical issues at hand)

What a terrible burden you must bear, equating meek with weak.

The predicates were not to be applied in intersection but as modalities.

I believe cherokeesix was asking if there were any particular dress codes pertaining to the wearing of a Glengarry.

For one a couple of don'ts:

• Don't, as a general rule, wear dicing. Its widely considered uncivil. In much of the U.S. its probably fine since there are few associations with dicing.
• Watch out on which side the Glengarry is titlted (if at all) on the head since in some quarters (again to be probably ignored in the U.S.) it has political significance. Its typically worn on the right side of the head with the tip aligned with ones nose.
• The Glengarry is very much a military headcover and considered to be more formal than the Balmoral bonnet. That said, the mix with a Prince Charlie coatee is often considered "odd" and out of place. It can, on the other hand, look quite nice with a (black) barathea Argyll jacket as formal daywear.

[Caradoc]

I still retain most of my Military Bearing and do not wear a cover indoors. Thanks to my dear Drill Sargeant at Ft Dix NJ.

In my case it was my grandparents and my parents.

If I didn't uncover indoors, the Earth would gain a slight eccentricity in its orbit due to the multiple graves whose occupants had begun gyrating madly.

It still boggles me that there are so many people who'll even wear their baseball caps to indoor weddings - in churches - and fail to uncover.

(Note: I'm not talking yarmulkes, here... BASEBALL CAPS... in Methodist, Catholic, and Baptist churches.)

Nyekulturny in my book.

[LK-13]

as i have a fairly large head (always needed an XL motorcycle helmet)
very few hats of any type look good on me.
one of those few are Berets.
does the wearing of a Beret follow similar rules as wearing a Glengarry?
I'm thinking a Beret with my clan crest pin in place of the flash would look quite sharp.

additionally,
I'm one of those that may rub the grain the wrong way,
in that if I've chosen to wear a hat on any given day,
i usually don't take it off. for anything.
it's not a respect thing as far as I'm concerned.
it's the simple fact that since my crash back in the 80's I'm severely effected by the cold.
add that to the fact i get an award willing case of hat head.
(should my hair be longer than it's usual 1/16" length)
and because i have worked in kitchens for years on end,
i was required to wear a hat at all times for sanitary reasons.

[Nanook]

(Note: I'm not talking yarmulkes, here... BASEBALL CAPS... in Methodist, Catholic, and Baptist churches.)

Maybe they are all visiting Jews or Muslims?
Among Christians, however, I'm under the impression that Paul the Apostle to distinguish and break Christianity from Judaism, set forth in Corinthians the headcover as a sign of shame. One need recall that prior to Paul a large school of Christian thought saw Judaism and the acceptance of mitzvot as the path to Christianity. Christians covered their heads. The Roman senator Flavius Clemens and his wife Flavia Domitilla converted to Judaism. The Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox Churches both suggest that they, however, followed the Christian movement. For many apostates the differences were not that clear cut. With Paul we see a formalization of a break through the separation of those that wear hats and those that don't.