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31st March 07, 05:25 PM
#11
Yup - and as my mother used to say - "Good manners cost nothing."
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31st March 07, 09:35 PM
#12
I like hats too. (to get back on topic)
Convener, Georgia Chapter, House of Gordon (Boss H.O.G.)
Where 4 Scotsmen gather there'll usually be a fifth.
7/5 of the world's population have a difficult time with fractions.
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31st March 07, 10:37 PM
#13
Hats!
Kid, amen to your post, I was raised the same, + I like hats.
But you know why people don't remove their hats indoors? There's no where to put them! If you see old movies from the 30s and 40s where everyone wore a hat, if a man goes into a club or resturant, there was a hat and coat check. Even homes would have a coat /hat rack in the entry hall. Nowadays if one goes in a nice resturant wearing a hat and coat, you are on your own to find them a home at your table, along with your umbrella if it's rainy!
To finish up, a quote from the Grand Master;
"Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naïve, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as "empty," "meaningless," or "dishonest," and scorn to use them. No matter how "pure" their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best."
Robert A. Heinlein
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
"If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
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31st March 07, 10:48 PM
#14
I agree entirely. Just last week I was sitting in the Queen's Pub at the student centre, and noticed a number of men wearing hats not only indoors, but while sitting at tables, eating! I commented fairly loudly to my friend that I would never dream of wearing a hat indoors, but was ignored.
Not the most polite thing to do on my part, but really!
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1st April 07, 10:08 AM
#15
I too, am a "hat guy", to the point that people comment when I am not wearing a hat! Funny how uncommonly we encounter common courtesy these days. I was present for jury selection a few months ago and the bailiff actually had to ask those men in the room to remove their hats (all wearing the ubiquitous baseball cap) and to do so whenever they were in the courtroom. It was a number of fellows, all old enough to know better in my opinion
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Zardoz
Kid, amen to your post, I was raised the same, + I like hats.
But you know why people don't remove their hats indoors? There's no where to put them!
Amen, Brother! You have to be awfully creative with a fedora or cowboy hat.
KAP
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1st April 07, 10:16 AM
#16
In days gone by it was customary for a man to not have his head uncovered outdoors. In days way gone by, it was required by not only custom but law in some places. Be that as it may, I very rarely go outdoors without my fedora, or at least some form of hat.
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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1st April 07, 10:31 AM
#17
I fully agree that manners have generally gone out the window. And that some (women) are even insulted at the opening of a door or the rising from a table. For me the rising from seated is now just lifting my buttocks an inch or two. If the lady is aware of the custom, I get credit and if not, if she even notices she may think I'm just readjusting. The not doffing of one's hat when talking to someone maybe acceptable. What bothers me (and I am often a forgetful offender myself) is not removing sunglasses when conversing.
The example that Kid gave in his intial post of the elderly gentleman still engrained with Jim Crow laws just makes me shudder as well.
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