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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul View Post
    . . .So as you can see I have majority of Scottish ancestry in my blood, but i currently carry the name of my father who's background is English. Can I "claim" the tartan of the Macdonald clan from Scotland, since it's my mothers side, does that make a difference? How does this work?
    Fact is you can claim anything you like. No kidding. You're just as much Scottish as you are anythind else (apparently), so why not go that route if you like. The MacDonald tartans are great looking, and if you do a little reading here, you'll find that "great looking" seems to trump just about everything else.

    No one will check your pedigree, but your choice of tartan is a very personal thing, and you can choose it for any of a number of reasons. I wear Robertson (from my mother's side, modern huntin, weathered hunting, and red dress), Gordon (from a fancied attachment on my father's side), and Leatherneck because I am a Marine (albeit long in the tooth and long-sense out of uniform). But I wouldn't wear any of them if I didn't like the look of the tartan! A guy has to think about the image he projects, you know.

    There are lots of guys here who either want or have Isle of Skye just because it looks so darned good! Same reason we choose our sport shirts, trousers, and other accoutrements.

    Welcome to the confusion. Just let us hear what you choose to do and show lots of pictures. (Pix are required.)
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    THanks.. I guess what I mean is.. If I was to go to a Scottish function, or to an official St. Andrews event, or something similiar, would it be correct to claim to be part of Clan Macdonald and where the coat of arms (albeit on a pin, or on a buckle etc..) and/or tartan, even though I now have an English last name??? I just want to be politically correct and not claim something that isn't correct or valid, that's all. Just making sure I dont look like an idiot - I just love the Scottish history, and would really love to be able to legitimately take part in some of the scottish clan/family associations, gatherings and collecting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul View Post
    THanks.. I guess what I mean is.. If I was to go to a Scottish function, or to an official St. Andrews event, or something similiar, would it be correct to claim to be part of Clan Macdonald and where the coat of arms (albeit on a pin, or on a buckle etc..) and/or tartan, even though I now have an English last name??? I just want to be politically correct and not claim something that isn't correct or valid, that's all. Just making sure I dont look like an idiot - I just love the Scottish history, and would really love to be able to legitimately take part in some of the scottish clan/family associations, gatherings and collecting....
    Most such organizations welcome members of all sorts of ancestry, whether Scots, semi-Scots or non-Scots, who want to promote Scottish culture and heritage.

    I would wait and see what others do in your area and milieu....not that what they do would be necessarily correct, but there is a difference between correct and appropriate.

    By the way, there is no such thing as a family coat of arms. A COA belongs to an individual, not his family, and not to some one who merely has the same last name as some one else who (or whose forebear) was granted a coat of arms by Lord Lyon in Scotland or Garter King at Arms in England.

    Clan crests are a different thing, and are worn by members of a clan. They are the chief's crest, but always encircled by a belt. The crest is the heraldic device that goes above the shield in a coat of arms.

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