"Learn to Suffer" and by God have I ever.

[catmelodian]

Could quite catch the jist of your title ...?

Martin

Hi Martin.

The jist of my opening title is my Clan Motto; "Disce Pati" (Learn to Suffer). I'm always tempted to use my mothers instead, "Vincere Vel Mori" (To Conquer or Die) has that macho ring to it.....

Anyhow, I thank all of you for the welcome.