Old Punks Young Punks

[Riverkilt]

Having worked in and volunteered in prisons for over seven years I still have trouble thinking of the word punk as applying to anything other than what it means behind bars. (if you're confused you can look it up yourself)

As a youth, I was much more sneaky, hid behind the norm and came out for raids and sabotage rather than openly wearing the uniform of a troublemaker...so the question doesn't apply to me...I don't think.

I can say that it still amazes me how many compliments I get on my kilts from young men affecting the punk look (in non-prison terms).

And, I've even had one youngster, openly smoking pot at a highland games while wearing his black Utilikilt workman's, snub me when I went up to him in my black Utilikilt workman's and said something like hey, we're wearing the same kilt.

Guess it ruined his day, trying to be so defiant and here's an olde fat man wearing his same defiant looking kilt...

Trust me, they NEED to find a better word to describe their look/movement/culture than punk....

Ron

[KiltedCelt]

In most good dictionarys you'll find one of the def. of 'Punk'is "useless worthless person". That is the meaning and useage in regards to the Punk movements of the 70's and 80's.Like many words it has more the one meaning depending on where you are and who you are talking to ...ask for a fag in downtown London and most likly you'll be given a cigarette ask the same in downtown. N.Y. City and any number of things might happen but none of them will involve cigarettes!

Cheers,

Mike

[Riverkilt]

Aye Mike,

Suppose since were near the edge...in prison a "punk" is a convict who is "available." They often advertise their availability by wearing their jeans slung low in back like a plumber working under the sink.

But once assigning the meaning of the word punk intended by the original post my guess is that a lot of us olde folk like the punk look of the Black UK because we didn't get a chance to go that route when we were young...okay, speaking for myself...but hey, if I'd lived the punk life as a kid I'd probably not have the income I do now to feed my kilt addiction...

Ron

[KiltedCelt]

In my Scots-English Dictionary"Income" is defined as: Money earned by an individual so they can purchase the Kilt!!!!! lol!!

Cheers,

Mike

[Keith A]

Yes I Know The Prison Term Punk, That Is Not What I Was Refering To At All. As For My Self I Grow Up In The Early 80's North Jersey And Nyc Hardcore Scenes. As A Young Kid Who Did Not Fit In Well With Suberban High School Crowd, And Did Not Care To It Gave Me An Outlet. It Kept Me Alive When Alot Of My Friends Were Dying Of Od's And Drunk Driving. I Learned To Read Between The Lines And Not Take What I Was Told As The Truth. I Meet My Wife 19 Years Ago Through The Punk Scene, And We Have Been Togther All This Time Because We Came Up With The Same Values That For A Big Part Came Out Of The World That Of Punk Rock. Its Wasent Just All Mindless Rebelion. It Had Its Own Record And Print Publishing, Its Own Promotion. And Back In The 80's I Was Able To Go Prity Much To Any City In The World And Find People Who I Could Stay And Have Alot Of Fun With. And My Wife And I Did Do Alot Of Traveling. And As Far As The Punk Look I Dont Think It That Simple. Punk Is A Way Of Thinking And Living. The Look Is Just One Of Many Differnt Fashions. And Fashion Does Not Make One A Punk. I May Have A Very Straight Job Now. But I Still See The World And I Still Read Between The Lines.