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    Sort of like a weed is a flower out of place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey@Arms View Post
    Since the use of "fashion," or if you will, "nonaligned" tartans predates clan tartans, I think they are just as real as any other, just unnamed.
    I agree with this too. One reason I got this is that the complexity of the sett, such as the asymmety in the warp and weft directions, is similar to that found in many older tartans (18th-19th c.) The colors are also similar to those found in some of the older tartans (note that the tartan really appears a bit darker than in the image posted here -- or at least on my monitor). So this is worn at least in part a historical garment, and as the féileadh mhor was worn well before there were defined clan tartans -- and indeed this was true for most of the period in which the féileadh mhor was worn as a practical garment -- I don't have any problem whatsoever wearing one in an unrecognized tartan. As long as the quality of the fabric is good, which it is, it is perfectly fine with me. As I mentioned, I was just curious to find out if anyone recognized it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apack View Post
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    Another quick follow-up for Matt and Hamish: so do you recognize all or almost all of the official tartans off-hand? I know there are several thousand registered tartans, though I guess only some hundreds are really traditional ones. In either case, I would be impressed at the level of dedication and familiarity required to know that many on sight! Definitely an interesting subject though.

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    It is not that I work with tartans like Matt (who has also made in-depth studies of the subject), it is just that I have had an interest in them for a very long time and, indeed, have been wearing them for 57 years. With such experience, one develops an 'eye' which sometimes, but not always, distinguishes between a 'serious' tartan and a 'frivilous' one. A gut feeling, in other words.

    As for what makes a 'true' tartan: I suppose I tend to think, rightly or wrongly, that an officially registered or recorded tartan is a true one.
    [B][I][U]No. of Kilts[/U][/I][/B][I]:[/I] 102.[I] [B]"[U][B]Title[/B]"[/U][/B][/I]: Lord Hamish Bicknell, Laird of Lochaber / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Scottish Tartans Authority / [B][U][I]Life Member:[/I][/U][/B] The Royal Scottish Country Dance Society / [U][I][B]Member:[/B][/I][/U] The Ardbeg Committee / [I][B][U]My NEW Photo Album[/U]: [/B][/I][COLOR=purple]Sadly, and with great regret, it seems my extensive and comprehensive album may now have been lost forever![/COLOR]/

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