Riverkilt - Irish Caubeen?

[PiobBear]

My caubeen, sheillah of the 69th N.Y.V.I.; the Irish Brigade.

J Byous Co.

[PiobBear]

Ah the "shapless Irish peasants hat" and the British military ones aren't even based on an Irish hat

Can't say I particularly care what the British military ones are like. Caubeens are worn by pipers of the Óglaiġ na h-Éireann; the Irish Defence Forces, which makes it Irish enough for me.

[macwilkin]

Can't say I particularly care what the British military ones are like. Caubeens are worn by pipers of the Óglaiġ na h-Éireann; the Irish Defence Forces, which makes it Irish enough for me.

Of course, the Irish Defence Forces took much of their uniforms from the British Army, including said Caubeens; the ones depicted in Donnal Maccarron's Irish Defence Forces since 1922 are almost identicial to the caubeens of the Irish regiments of the British Army. Even the famous "coal scuttle" (Stahlhelm) helmets of the pre-WWII Irish forces, which bore a striking similarity to the German helmet were actually made in Britain by Vickers!

The Irish Army's Ranger Wing --Sciathán Fianóglach an Airm -- and the Irish Air Corps Pipe Band wear the glengarry, btw. But, it should be pointed out that the term "glengarry" was used by the Irish Army to refer to a caubeen-like bonnet! I'll have to dig out Maccarron this evening for the full skinny on that.

I highly recommend Maccarron's book (published by Osprey); He also authored a book entitled Step Together! about the Irish Army during "The Emergency" (World War Two) which has a plethora of pictures of the Irish forces and quite entertaining text.

Regards,

Todd

[Nervous Jock]

Can't say I particularly care what the British military ones are like. Caubeens are worn by pipers of the Óglaiġ na h-Éireann; the Irish Defence Forces, which makes it Irish enough for me.

Whether its an urban myth the story goes the English colonel of an Irish regiment wanted his men to wear some traditional Irish headgear "like the one in that picture" the picture happened to be of a Scottish immigrant

[macwilkin]

Whether its an urban myth the story goes the English colonel of an Irish regiment wanted his men to wear some traditional Irish headgear "like the one in that picture" the picture happened to be of a Scottish immigrant

See my post above. The Irish Regiments borrowed heavily from the Scots when they started forming pipe bands in the late 19th century.

Todd

[Captain]

I have yet to find a hat I like to wear when kilted other than the driving cap I wear with everything else. Traditional kilted head wear always has a poofy ball or rosette or feather on it that just doesn't seem to sit right with me. They look great on all the pics I've seen of you guys, but I just get the feeling they'd look funny on me.

[Irish in Tacoma]

I've had my eye on that caubeen for a while, I think its probably time to take the plunge.

[Irish in Tacoma]

You guys are a bad influence. I just ordered one.

[Tattoo Bradley]

I have yet to find a hat I like to wear when kilted other than the driving cap I wear with everything else. Traditional kilted head wear always has a poofy ball or rosette or feather on it that just doesn't seem to sit right with me. They look great on all the pics I've seen of you guys, but I just get the feeling they'd look funny on me.

I know exactly what you mean. I always like the way they look in the pictures. But, i can't see any of those looking well on me. Especially with the stretched ears, just doesn't seem it would "look right." So, I too stick with driving hats and flat hats.

[Nervous Jock]

Traditional kilted head wear always has a poofy ball

I would like to see you say that to any of the members of the RRS

that just doesn't seem to sit right with me. They look great on all the pics I've seen of you guys, but I just get the feeling they'd look funny on me

Fair enough, try it and see.