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    Disrespectful?

    Wearing a swastika to a Polish festival would be disrespectful.
    Wearing a Turkish military uniform to a Greek festival would be disrespectful.
    Dressing as a Nazi at a Jewish festival would be disrespectful.

    Wearing a kilt is not disrespectful.

    Which shows more respect, wearing your national or cultural garb and showing pride in your heritage and culture, in a place and time where others are doing likewise, or wearing a costume?

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    Sorry this is slightly off thread topic...

    Quote Originally Posted by apack View Post
    A bit off topic, but amusing nonetheless...

    I wore a kilt to the Harry Potter release party at a local bookstore. I was accompanying my daughter, who went as Ginny Weasley, complete with robes, wand, and Hogwarts tie. MANY people asked me what character I was supposed to be! They were all convinced there was a kilted Scotsman in the book somewhere, and they couldn't quite remember his name...
    The Aberforth Dumbledore character (brother of Albus, and barman of the Hog's Head tavern) wears a kilt in Movie 5 (Order of the Phoenix). It's hard to see which tartan, but it's muted/weathered, and worn with a dark tweed day jacket.

    I don't think that kilts are mentioned in the books per se, though.

    Back on topic, I've had good reactions to a trad tartan tank at culturally mixed events. I live in the east end of London, where the prevailing mode of dress is probably best politely called 'casual' and left at that.

    We have significant black and minority ethnic population groups here. I've been kilted with groups where the 'africana' style of dress has been worn by both sexes, and also to a full-on asian wedding. In both cases, I took care to dress smartly and co-ordinate my kilt, shirt, tie and hose, and was well received, even though from one perspective, I stood out a mile.

    As others have said upthread, wearing the kilt as clothes, not as costume, and being respectful to others are the foundations.

    Best regards
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    To me, it's not a question of whether one's dress is respectful (other than in extreme examples as Crusty mentioned), but whether it is appropriate, and also tasteful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjrapid View Post
    Sorry this is slightly off thread topic...

    The Aberforth Dumbledore character (brother of Albus, and barman of the Hog's Head tavern) wears a kilt in Movie 5 (Order of the Phoenix). It's hard to see which tartan, but it's muted/weathered, and worn with a dark tweed day jacket.

    I don't think that kilts are mentioned in the books per se, though.
    I'll just correct myself having re-read HP and the Goblet of Fire. There's a character called Basil who appears 'wearing a kilt and a poncho'.

    Best regards

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    I don't think it is disrespectful at all. My friend Todd(ish) (Mc)Wong host an annual Gung Haggis Fat Choy dinner and it is fusion of Burns Night and Chinese New Year. It is not disrespectful to either culture. I wear my kilt for this event every year. I have raced dragon boats in my kilt before.

    For me it is not a problem at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by James MacMillan View Post
    I am from the old school. I have a problem with the entire term "disrespectful."

    To my mind, with my background, and my education, I can not understand Respect in a negative direction. To me, you either respect someone, or you don't. Not having respect for someone is not the same as the current usage of "Disrespect" is being used.

    Secondly, one must earn respect. Respect is not a given! Respect is not free to all. An individual gains respect by the way he/she acts. If a person acts badly, they do not have my respect.
    Here! Here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusty View Post
    Disrespectful?

    Wearing a swastika to a Polish festival would be disrespectful.
    Wearing a Turkish military uniform to a Greek festival would be disrespectful.
    Dressing as a Nazi at a Jewish festival would be disrespectful.

    Wearing a kilt is not disrespectful.

    Which shows more respect, wearing your national or cultural garb and showing pride in your heritage and culture, in a place and time where others are doing likewise, or wearing a costume?
    Don't take too much for granted. To some, kilts are the symbol of imperialism. Kilted troops were the face of British military power for many years. People from those countries remember.
    I have a friend who is a refugee from near Basra. The (non-kilted) Black Watch were there. They did not use the regular British markings, the Saltire was prominent instead of the Union Jack. He will be identifying the foreign troops as Scottish, in fact, that's what they labelled themselves.
    This is no slag on the Black Watch, a regiment I highly respect and have family connections to. It's a recognition of a shared feeling, how I would feel about any foreign troop walking around, armed and in control, in my country.

    (p.s.: please don't take that last comment anywhere. I am aware of the current situation. I am not commenting on that, or trying to initiate conversation on that. I am referring to Scottish troops being seen as an unwelcome force for social and political change and not an affirmation of our clothing choice.)

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    Good point. I hadn't considered that. In that case, a Black watch kilt would fall into the same category as my other examples.

    Not to devalue your veryvalid point in any way, but just to clarify, wasn't it the British(English) emperialism that put Scottish troops there in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusty View Post
    Good point. I hadn't considered that. In that case, a Black watch kilt would fall into the same category as my other examples.

    Not to devalue your veryvalid point in any way, but just to clarify, wasn't it the British(English) emperialism that put Scottish troops there in the first place?

    There can be an argument for before the 18C, but after, absolutely.

    However, I think I'd be remembering the uniforms' distinctives as much as the Politician who sent them. More so, until a later time of peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RowdyRed View Post
    Okay, but what is 'respectful'?

    Should the kilted NOT do the "Chicken Dance" if the spirit so moves them?
    You have to come to Scotland at New Year, plenty of kilties doing the Chicken dance and every other kind of dance then. It is only a form of clothing after all and doesn't mean you have to behave reverentially when wearing it - quite the opposite most of the time. So loosen up and enjoy yourself when kilted.

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