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22nd August 07, 01:06 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Peter C.
It is not scots it is simply English with a Scottish accent written phonetically.
Peter
Since none of the other varieties of English are written phonetically, I fail to see why the Scots version need to be.
Martin
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22nd August 07, 06:15 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Martin S
Since none of the other varieties of English are written phonetically, I fail to see why the Scots version need to be.
Martin
I cud poun' out da loc'l Yooper di'lect of da U.P., which may not be as differ'nt as Scots, but ya prob'ly never 'eard it, so's harder to 'ear it in yer 'ead, eh?
Speakin' a which, what do youse guys t'ink of a Kromer an' choppers wit da kilt, eh?
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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22nd August 07, 06:31 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Nick
I cud poun' out da loc'l Yooper di'lect of da U.P., which may not be as differ'nt as Scots, but ya prob'ly never 'eard it, so's harder to 'ear it in yer 'ead, eh?
Speakin' a which, what do youse guys t'ink of a Kromer an' choppers wit da kilt, eh?
Right. Got the first part of that but failed in the second part. What is / are Krommer and choppers? And do the people of the UP often - as it appears to be here - mix singular and plural indiscriminantly?
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22nd August 07, 06:42 PM
#4
A Kromer is a type of hat with ear flaps, great in the winter. Choppers are mittens where the top of the mitten flips back to expose the fingers (turning it into fingerless gloves) to do things that require more dexterity. Alternatively, choppers can just be very heavy winter mittens.
As for singular and plural, yes, they are often interchanged, but as with any dialect if you speak it you know what the person means. In the more Finnish areas the English articles are completly dropped ("you talking" instead of "you are talking", "Bruce crossing" instead of "Bruce is crossing"). I grew up with more of an Italian influence, which is softer, but it still sounds similar.
I don't speak with a heavy Yooper accent anymore (playing different characters on stage changed how I talk), but it's still there a bit. My Lady grew up in Colorado and she can definitly hear it.
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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22nd August 07, 06:40 PM
#5
Speakin' a which, what do youse guys t'ink of a Kromer an' choppers wit da kilt, eh?
Please NOOOO! MY EYES
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22nd August 07, 06:44 PM
#6
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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22nd August 07, 06:55 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by Nick
Doesn't get cold in Pennsylvania, does it?
My Kromer is the warmest hat I own, but I normally wear a chuke in the winter.
Cold in PA, not lately
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23rd August 07, 03:24 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Nick
Doesn't get cold in Pennsylvania, does it?
My Kromer is the warmest hat I own, but I normally wear a chuke in the winter.
I could see a Kromer wi' a kilt.
Todd
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23rd August 07, 09:18 AM
#9
The best example of the American southern dialect written phonetically is Mark Twain. I hated trying to read Huck Finn when I was 6 but now it seems full of flavor and music.
But then again I was used to hearing the dialect so could understand it when it was written.
Robertsons posts drip with the sounds and music of the language of his area. Unfortunately I have very little experience hearing the language so have no point of reference for my brain to make the connection of the printed word to a spoken sound.
The regional idioms I am totally in the dark about.
Here in Canada it is an amazing melting pot of cultures and languages and I'm just as clueless sometimes. Particularly when it is a young person talking.
Here's one I heard at the Museum last week. See if anyone can decypher this.
"Like Moi, y'all eh?"
When coming from an 11 year old I doubt it was an affectation.
It meant "Wow, I get to go with your group? cool."
Steve Ashton
www.freedomkilts.com
Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
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22nd August 07, 07:23 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Nick
Speakin' a which, what do youse guys t'ink of a Kromer an' choppers wit da kilt, eh?
This is pretty close to that, eh?
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