Subjected to 'racial abuse' while kilted - sorry if length and/or content offends

[Streetcar]

Troy, good on ya!

You spoke to the miscreant in a language and manner that he (and his friends) understood. Had you just “ignored” him, it is very likely that it would embolden him to step up the abuse – trying to see just how much you would take.

(And I’m stealing your line about “tell your mamma you saw a real man tonight…!”)

[benkilt]

I've alwayd found the best retort to such an assinine comment as the one that started the incident, is to ask a question, for instance, 'So?', the usual result is total bafflement, but any result where you and yours walk away unharmed is a good one, and I'm pretty sure that William Wallace couldn't give a toss what the twonk said!

[acstoon]

Living in the states and seeing the growing lack of respect for people in general, weather it be racial or other wise, I wonder if ignoring things and acting "the better man" is the best action to take. That seems to be the philosophy anymore, and lack of respect just seems to get worse and worse. People get pushed around more and more. Maybe if everyone was more apt to "teaching a punk a lesson" for being blatantly disrespectful for various reasons, people may be more likely to keep their ignorant mouths shut. Maybe if Troy would have just spanked the little punk, like he obviously needed, he would think better before doing it again? Not a very "politically correct" thing to say, I know. But whats worse, a culture of spoiled brats thinking they can do and say what ever they want to people, while the others just ignore or whine about it? Or a culture where if you step out of line, someones gunna give you a swift kick in the pants for acting like a little punk. The guy was out of line, a lesson should have been taught. Pretty much, lets face it, the culture where everyone gets along and treats everyone with respect, where we all live in harmony with various cultures isnt going to happen any time soon. We as a culture didnt get to where we are in the world being passive nice people, but we'll sure loose our place at the table fast being that way. Just a little reality. If Wallace had just ignored things and turned his head the other way, then the punks comment wouldnt have been out of line would it?

I was coming out of a pizza shop, with my hands full of pizzas. This kid was sitting on top of a pinball machine, somewhat behind the door (in a blind area). When I came thru the door, I barely bumped his leg, with the door. Being brought up to be courteous, I said "sorry" to this young man. His response: Looked right at me and shouted: "F you, A-hole!" , then laughed with his little buddies.
This instantly enraged me. His actions were completely unjustifiable. (If I hadn't said "sorry" to him, he probably wouldn't have even noticed being bumped) I put my pizzas down, and asked "Say What?"
"Oh... What are you gonna do old man?" "Touch me and you go to jail!"
His buddies chime in with: "What's your problem, Dude?", etc.
Great... mouth-off to me, and then hide behind the law.
This sawed-off runt & his buddies were probably 15ish, and half my size. Obviously have no respect... self or otherwise.
I looked at all of them, and barked "You're basing your future on a bunch of 'ifs'. If this gets reported... If the cops call upon me... If I go to trial ...." "Your mommies & daddies might sue me, but rest assured you WILL have your a** kicked now!" "Your choice... decide now."
They walked away.
Weeks later, in the small town I lived in, I saw this same bunch... they were perfectly courteous.

My point is: I don't advocate violence, but sometimes just walking away is condoning bad behavior.

[Gaisgeil]

I looked at all of them, and barked "You're basing your future on a bunch of 'ifs'. If this gets reported... If the cops call upon me... If I go to trial ...." "Your mommies & daddies might sue me, but rest assured you WILL have your a** kicked now!" "Your choice... decide now."
They walked away.

Nice! I'll have to remember that one.

[gseven1]

I looked at all of them, and barked "You're basing your future on a bunch of 'ifs'. If this gets reported... If the cops call upon me... If I go to trial ...." "Your mommies & daddies might sue me, but rest assured you WILL have your a** kicked now!" "Your choice... decide now."
They walked away.
Weeks later, in the small town I lived in, I saw this same bunch... they were perfectly courteous.

My point is: I don't advocate violence, but sometimes just walking away is condoning bad behavior.

It never ceases to amaze me that you have to speak to some young people this way. If my father had ever found out that I'd said something like that to an adult, whatever that adult had done to me as punishment would have been heaven compared to what I'd have received at home.

This is probably considered way out there, but I have the same attitude with my kids and have informed them and their teachers, etc as such. It worked well for generations, why fix what isn't broken?

[scoutniagara]

"Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience"

Well played, good on ya for keeping your cool.

I love that quote. I hope I can remember it.

We in Canada also are becoming more involved with racism. When people immigrate to a country because it's "better" than from where they've come, why can't they leave their "home" problems and persecuted social behaviours behind them? If our countries are so great, why can't immigrants adopt our way of life, rather than trying to change us to them?

Is this a kilt forum? Just wondering. ;)

[acstoon]

It never ceases to amaze me that you have to speak to some young people this way. If my father had ever found out that I'd said something like that to an adult, whatever that adult had done to me as punishment would have been heaven compared to what I'd have received at home.
Ditto here! My parents would have freaked out, if I so much as looked at an adult the wrong way.

This is probably considered way out there, but I have the same attitude with my kids and have informed them and their teachers, etc as such. It worked well for generations, why fix what isn't broken?
Absolutely! My daughter knows my rules & values... if she breaks the rules, she's initially on her own. The proper authority has my permission to throw the book at her. Then, it's my turn. She's 18, and I've never had any real problems with her.

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[beloitpiper]

So I'm in Galway now, and I've made a few friends, some of whom happen to be rather attractive girls. Now, I'm a 6'1", 230 lb, 20 y.o. rugby player with red hair. Kinda imposing. My new friends walk through this pub in Galway called The Hole In The Wall (I now realize why they call it that--never go there!) and as we're walking in, a guy grabs my friend's..uhhh..rear end. She turns to him a says "Stop it!" he just says "Wow, the b***h has claws!"

Haha--no. I stepped in, saying "I think you owe her an apolo-" and before I can finish my sentence, I get a fist in the eye.

Nice.

So I kick out his knee, he goes to the ground, I give him a few more kicks and ask his friends if they care to join in. They don't say much, and my group of friends leave. Sure, I had a black eye for the next week, but these guys can't think that their inexcusable behavior won't come back to them.

[auld argonian]

Let's please not let things wander into ethnic/immigrant arguments. Sounds like this was a young guy out with his mates who was feeling cocky and shooting his mouth off. If we get caught at a loss for words and make a crack that's a little "off sides" in the ethnic department when looking for a rejoinder, then that's unfortunate...but it happens...it doesn't make us bad people but we should all try to keep it on a personal basis and not stray into stereotyping.

As I said earlier, that's where having a rich and colorful collection of profanities and perjoratives comes in handy...you can call anybody everything under the sun and still not venture into ethnic references.

...and Beloitpiper is right...he is a big 'un and that fella obviously misjudged both his size and his sense of righteousness when he took a swing at him.

But as Rodney King once said, "Why can't we just all get along?"


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[acstoon]

"Why can't we just all get along?"

Right on!