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                                                2nd October 07, 05:13 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			XMarks motto?
		
			
				
					I know that there is an X Marks The Scot tartan, an X Marks The Scot plant badge, an X Marks The Scot crest (gotta get me one of those pins…)
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 Is there an X Marks The Scot motto?
 
 If there isn't, I suggest:
 
 Semper Fidelis Subligaculumi.
 
 This is Latin for "Always Faithful to the Kilts." If I messed up with the grammar at all, mea maxima culpa.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 05:18 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					You're about to open up a can of worms you know  . There was discussion before but no real concensus. 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 05:27 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It's got my vote, of course somebody will want to convert it to gailik or brogue or ???   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 05:49 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			I read the other thread
		
			
				
					and this motto has my vote.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 07:23 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Ok, but doesn't subligaculum refer to either the loin cloth type garment worn by gladiators or a pair of shorts mosty refered to as underwear? While I like the gladiator bit I don't wear a loin cloth or shorts.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Coemgen   If there isn't, I suggest:
 Semper Fidelis Subligaculumi.
 
 This is Latin for "Always Faithful to the Kilts." If I messed up with the grammar at all, mea maxima culpa.
 
 Also if memory serves the loincloth type garment is bifurcated.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 07:59 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Here we go again...   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 10:18 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Yeah, subligaculum brings to mind an undergarment and not an outer garment.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Chef   Ok, but doesn't subligaculum refer to either the loin cloth type garment worn by gladiators or a pair of shorts mosty refered to as underwear? While I like the gladiator bit I don't wear a loin cloth or shorts.
 Also if memory serves the loincloth type garment is bifurcated.
 A kilted Celt on the border.Kentoc'h mervel eget bezañ saotret
 Omne bellum sumi facile, ceterum ægerrume desinere.
 
 
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                2nd October 07, 11:30 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Well, when I typed "kilt" into the University of Notre Dame Latin Dictionary and Grammar Aid, this is what showed up:
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Chef   Ok, but doesn't subligaculum refer to either the loin cloth type garment worn by gladiators or a pair of shorts mosty refered to as underwear? While I like the gladiator bit I don't wear a loin cloth or shorts.
 Also if memory serves the loincloth type garment is bifurcated.
 
 
  
 As I am not a scholar of the Roman tongue, I just went with the one that sounded better to my ears.
 
 This would also explain if the grammar of what I suggested is somewhat lacking.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd October 07, 06:04 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I did some research and I did find one reference to subligaculum as [lioncloth, kilt] so based on that one I see you point. Unfortunately most of the definitions refer to it is a loincloth or undergarment. As I mentioned before even though they call it a loin cloth, it is bifurcated. The garment is actually a bit like a diaper as seen below:
 
  
 And that gives you something like this:
 
 
  
 Besides I agree with those from another post who think any motto should be in English since that is not the "universal language".
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd October 07, 11:17 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					OK - Let's face it, the Romans didn't have a kilt!  So how could they have a word for it?
 I still like Semper Fidelis Subligaculumi, if only for the obvious reason of the first two words!
   
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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