Stillwater Kilts: A review

[DireStraitsFan]

Just because he has a $700 kilt, that doesn't qualify him as an expert. I am no expert either, but I know what quality is.

Wow. How did I know that was coming? It's so difficult to have this kind of discussion on the net.

He owned an expensive kilt. He knew a lot about them. He's been wearing them for years. I didn't think I needed to give his blood type and underwear size for people to understand what I was getting at.

Take anything for granted on a forum and the detail police show up with guns blazing.

[macwilkin]

Well said. I know way more about this stuff than I did four years ago when I thought I had it all figured out. Everyone starts with a limited understanding of all things kilt (unless you're born in Scotland). I think it is fair for Colin to have his opinion, as it is fair to have mine.

I still stand by the statement that there is snobbery out there when it comes to these kinds of things.

No one is saying there's not snobbery. Believe me, I've been active in the Scottish-American community for over a decade, and I've seen my fair share of it. Highland attire is only a small fraction of it. Personality issues play a far greater role, INMHO.

My point was that some folks tend to paint all traditionalists with a broad brush of snobbery, which is just as bad as the snobbery they are accused of.

T.

[DireStraitsFan]

My point was that some folks tend to paint all traditionalists with a broad brush of snobbery, which is just as bad as the snobbery they are accused of.

T.

I can dig it. Hey everyone likes what they like. I like the tartan kilts better than the new casual kilts (UK, and what have you). I'm sure the longer I wear the kilt my tastes are likely to change with experience. But, like I said earlier, having handled very expensive kilts before (in a local shop dripping with Celtic supremacy and snobbery) I can't see paying $500 when I can get it for $80 (I'm seriously considering a SWK Heavyweight next, though.). I would be scared to wear it for fear of damaging it.

I take it back. The only reason I would pay more for a kilt, is to get a special tartan. SWK is very limited in their tartans. I might look at USAK for that.

[ChromeScholar]

So by that definition knowledge = snobbery

What definition? I wasn't aware I posted a definition. What I did say was that there is a segment of the kilt-wearing population (not all, of course) that look down there noses at anything that is not a hand-sewn, 100% worsted wool kilt. That is a fact, and it is also a fact that this attitude has been shown in a few posts by a few members of this forum.

Does that logic apply to people that can tell the difference between an acrylic kilt and a custom fit Polyviscose kilt?

And exactly how many people is that? I'd wager that it's darned few, even if you limit your pool to the people who wear kilts. Of those that can, I'd wager that most wouldn't care (and a few would).

The majority of folks I run around with in the Scottish community are traditionalists, but yet I've never heard them say anything down right mean or rude to someone in regards to Highland attire

Now, go back and read the Kilts Dos and Donts thread again, and see how many of the responses to less than perfect outfits come off sounding a little bit snobby.

Just like there a fair number of folks who assume that every traditionalist is a snob.

There may be, but if you're talking about me, you'd be wrong.

I've said before, and I'll say it again: some of the most intolerant people I have ever met have claimed to be tolerant of others.

This I can agree with. On the other hand, in quite a few of the threads about SWK (or Frugal Corner, for that matter), someone seems to jump in to make sure everyone knows that their product doesn't compare to a hand-sewn, 100% wool kilt. Why is this necessary? That is the (apparent) snobbery I am talking about.

[DireStraitsFan]

What definition? I wasn't aware I posted a definition. What I did say was that there is a segment of the kilt-wearing population (not all, of course) that look down there noses at anything that is not a hand-sewn, 100% worsted wool kilt. That is a fact, and it is also a fact that this attitude has been shown in a few posts by a few members of this forum.



And exactly how many people is that? I'd wager that it's darned few, even if you limit your pool to the people who wear kilts. Of those that can, I'd wager that most wouldn't care (and a few would).



Now, go back and read the Kilts Dos and Donts thread again, and see how many of the responses to less than perfect outfits come off sounding a little bit snobby.



There may be, but if you're talking about me, you'd be wrong.



This I can agree with. On the other hand, in quite a few of the threads about SWK (or Frugal Corner, for that matter), someone seems to jump in to make sure everyone knows that their product doesn't compare to a hand-sewn, 100% wool kilt. Why is this necessary? That is the (apparent) snobbery I am talking about.

ChromeScholar seems to say what I have been trying to say way better than me. You go bro.

[ChromeScholar]

Well, I've said all I have to say on the subject. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't my intention (it's just something I seem to be good at).

[Raphael]

I can't see paying $500 when I can get it for $80 (I'm seriously considering a SWK Heavyweight next, though.). I would be scared to wear it for fear of damaging it.

I take it back. The only reason I would pay more for a kilt, is to get a special tartan. SWK is very limited in their tartans. I might look at USAK for that.

Give it a year or 2, you may change your tune.

[The F-H.C.A.G.]

...snip... I had to tell him that I didn't have on a Scottish kilt. He was shocked...snip...

Just like the other day, when someone said to Panache..."That's a REAL kilt isn't it?" And I replied, "No, actually, it's a polyviscose kilt-washable and all those conveniences." She was suprised and impressed-possibly, another liberated husband is out there.

So by that definition knowledge = snobbery.

...snip...what about people that own a utility kilt as opposed to a tweed kilt?

People buy the kilts and accesories that that they are willing and able to buy. Some save and buy in time, some want to try things out now and save later, some just like having a bunch of the have now items. Cool,to each their own. That's why there are so many options....snip... I hope we never all agree on everything.

With you there. If it weren't for the Utilikilk, Panache would not be kilted.

Wow. How did I know that was coming? It's so difficult to have this kind of discussion on the net.

He owned an expensive kilt. He knew a lot about them. He's been wearing them for years. I didn't think I needed to give his blood type and underwear size for people to understand what I was getting at.

Take anything for granted on a forum and the detail police show up with guns blazing.

...snip... I would be scared to wear it for fear of damaging it....snip...

Exactly! What's the point in wearing something that you are terrified of messing up?

Well, I've said all I have to say on the subject. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn't my intention (it's just something I seem to be good at).

B.S. You are a good memeber of our forum! Welcome!

Be well,,

[beowulf67]

Hey DireStraitsFan, if you really want to impress the snobs, be sure to extend your pinky while drinking from your flask!!!

Works every time.int:


And I've got a trad wool kilt, SportKilt and UtiliKilt and wear each when I want depending on mood and the situation. If anyone has a problem, I'm willing to discuss it or buy them a drink and forget about it. If they still don't like it, I just tell 'em to p**s off and "Please ask your wife/girlfriend to stop trying to kilt check me. It's getting embarrassing!"

[thescot]

WE all hate to say we told you so, but. . . well, we did tell you so.