I have been following this thread because I also play guitar and have been trying to get into Celtic music. You certainly sound like you know what your are talking about Archangel and I am appreciating your posts. Is there any chance on getting a tab or some music out of you. For some reason I am having trouble sorting this out in my head. . . .
Well, they have tabs for Scotland the Brave on a site called "ultimate-guitar.com," but here's the catch the guy didn't show a rhythm.
Key is Eb. He's laid out a six note scale from the Lydian mode. I prefer the five note scale from the Myxolydian. Not a big difference, I'd just start from the Bb as described above and leave out the Ab.
Modes are scales from different starting points in the key scale. They generate different moods.
In terms of music theory, Lydian is supposed to be a "happier" mode.
And now I'm reaching the limitations of my knowledge.
Is that in any key? I'm not too much educated into theory, but I know a few scale and modals.
no, that is it. You can play around the notes in the keys of Bb, Eb Gm Cm F and that about it. Its very limited. However if youre intending to play without the pipes. Yes any starting point is ok and will still contain the "sound of the pipes. The scale I wrote out to you starts in Bb, The lower Ab is actually below the scale. Hope this helps
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dont forget it is possible to play C natural and F natural on the pipes despite them not being part of the "traditional" scale, if your playing "thunderstruck" you have to play an F natural and "andy renwicks ferret" requires c natural to be played, many pipers cork off the drones when playing with other musicians as the droning Bb can sometimes be discordant during the other instruments chord changes
many pipers cork off the drones when playing with other musicians as the droning Bb can sometimes be discordant during the other instruments chord changes
Referred to as the "squawking of a dying pelican" by the priest who did our wedding.
(It's okay, it worked out. It was a small chapel and he figured, rightly, that a piper would nuke the place. We used recorded pipes.)
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on remeberance sunday we played at a church and the guy behind the bar said after we tuned up "have you finished strangling your cat" the PM said "aye we have, its the bar staffs turn next"
no, that is it. You can play around the notes in the keys of Bb, Eb Gm Cm F and that about it. Its very limited. However if youre intending to play without the pipes. Yes any starting point is ok and will still contain the "sound of the pipes. The scale I wrote out to you starts in Bb, The lower Ab is actually below the scale. Hope this helps
My buddy John Devens band uses guitars constantly. The "lead" guitarist, Jim White, can play the daylights out of any Irish tune. Between John and Jim, they switch off between guitar, mandolin and tenor banjo (the four string one).
I've seen fiddler Liz Carroll a whole lot and she's invariably accompanied by a guitarist. I've also seen plenty of Octave Mandolins and Bouzooki's used.
Before you freak out about these exotic instruments, remember the story of Tommy Tedesco.
Tedesco was one of, if not THE, best session players (by which I mean studio musician not like as in sessuin) in LA. The guy would show up and they'd say, "Tommy, we need a bouzooki on this track. Can you play it?" To which Tommy would reply, "Certainly." He'd get a bouzooki, go over the part and play the track for the recording like the pro he was. They'd throw all kinds of stringed instruments at the guy and he'd always come through. All of the other musicians would be amazed at all of the different fingerings that he must have known to be able to play all of these different instruments.
One day one of the other musicians actually broke down and asked him how he learned to play all of those different instruments. Tommy replied that he never learned all of the different fingerings...he knew how to play guitar so he'd take the bouzooki or mandolin or whatever and tune it LIKE A GUITAR and then play the part...even though it was tuned like a guitar, it still SOUNDED like a mando or an oud or an bouzooki or whatever.
Ha, I made my first youtube video. Partly because my guitar teacher gave it to me as "homework" and partly to explain some of this better. The rest is vanity.
So, this one is Amazing Grace. It's a simple tune but I still mess it up. What I want to show is the same five notes are played all through and the pattern just moves from string to string. Play around with it and you'll find all sorts of tunes that fit this shape (Hawaii 5-0).
Technically, it's in the key of D, it starts on A, so it's mixolydian.
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