Tartan Question

[Barb T]

This fabric has red in the weft but not in the warp. All the true tartans that I know of have the same warp and weft sequence of colors.

Barb

[Mael Coluim]

I found this link at Tartans of Scotland very helpful in understanding this discussion.

[James MacMillan]

Ok, now I'm a little confused. The warp and weft have to be the same for it to be tartan? Does that mean that the kilt here isn't made of tartan? Sorry, McClef, I'm not picking on you, it's just that I knew you had a kilt in this... tartan. (BTW, I love your outifit in this picture.)

That is a kilt, but it is not tartan....... looks pretty good though.

[davidlpope]

My understanding is that the recent "Welsh tartans" were purposely designed to have different warps and woofs in order to differentiate them as "Welsh tartans" from the typical existing tartans where warp and woof are the same. I suspect it was purely a marketing gimmick, but the effect is often aesthetically pleasing, as evidenced by many of the kilts pictured on this board. I don't know whether this makes them tartans or not- at some point the definition of a "correct, proper, or real" tartan is more aptly described as a "traditional" tartan, where warp and woof are the same, not withstanding assymmetric or non-reversing tartans such as the Hunting Stewart, Old Macmillan, etc.

Cordially,
David

[ccga3359]

...warps and woofs...

Woofs?

[davidlpope]

Sorry for the confusion. Woof = Weft. See below from Merriam-Webster online.

Cordially,
David


Main Entry:
1woof
Pronunciation:
\?w?f, ?wüf\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of Middle English oof, from Old English ?wef, from ?- (from on) + wefan to weave — more at weave
Date:
before 12th century
1 a: weft 1a b: woven fabric; also : the texture of such a fabric2: a basic or essential element or material

[ccga3359]

Sorry for the confusion. Woof = Weft. See below from Merriam-Webster online.

Cordially,
David


Main Entry:
1woof
Pronunciation:
\?w?f, ?wüf\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of Middle English oof, from Old English ?wef, from ?- (from on) + wefan to weave — more at weave
Date:
before 12th century
1 a: weft 1a b: woven fabric; also : the texture of such a fabric2: a basic or essential element or material

Wow, dogs know more about tartans than me !

[James MacMillan]

Wow, dogs know more about tartans than me !

Woof woof, Bark bark, Bow wow, Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr woof woof!

[Ruanaidh]

CBS Sunday Morning did a story on tartan yesterday morning. Actually it was entitled "Going Mad Over Plaid," ...David

ah the press/media, folks who know everything about nothing in particular, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.Chris

I hope they don't think that Mad rhymes with Plaid.

[James MacMillan]

I hope they don't think that Mad rhymes with Plaid.

I thought it was more like "Honey? Did the maid press my plaid?"