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    I've never been accused of cross-dressing. The very occasional "nice skirt" from the ignorant but that is about it.

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    As long as you are comfortable with your own sexuality what does it matter what others may think? Unfortunately our society has not yet come to terms with men wearing ostensibly female garments and the likes of leather kilts etc. appear about as ambivalent to them as going out in a floral patterned frock. Unfortunately unless it becomes a mainstream fashion it will always be thus.

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    I've heard the crossdressing remark before. My usual response is, 'no, I've never done that; I'm not British.'

    (I actually work with a very masculine straight man from Liverpool, who does like to 'dress up.' We have great conversations!)

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    Being old, ugly, bald, bearded and fat, I don't think anyone would accuse me of cross-dressing, even if I had on a bridal gown…

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    Hmmm! Sounds like my Great Grandmother Thusela. Just joking, just joking, I couldn't help it.
    Quote Originally Posted by James MacMillan View Post
    Being old, ugly, bald, bearded and fat, I don't think anyone would accuse me of cross-dressing, even if I had on a bridal gown…
    I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
    Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    Hmmm! Sounds like my Great Grandmother Thusela. Just joking, just joking, I couldn't help it.
    I remember a friend once saying that he liked dating ugly women, but that he drew the line on women who had a bigger mustache than he did....

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    That's a good one. There is a Japanese people called the Anue (forgive the spelling if it is wrong) who tatoo a mustache on women of their culture if they don't have one. That being said, it was still a good line.
    Quote Originally Posted by James MacMillan View Post
    I remember a friend once saying that he liked dating ugly women, but that he drew the line on women who had a bigger mustache than he did....
    I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
    Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    As long as you are comfortable with your own sexuality what does it matter what others may think? Unfortunately our society has not yet come to terms with men wearing ostensibly female garments and the likes of leather kilts etc. appear about as ambivalent to them as going out in a floral patterned frock. Unfortunately unless it becomes a mainstream fashion it will always be thus.
    I agree. I've never been concerned what other people think, I'm just having a hard time understanding the mindset of someone who can take a decidedly manly garment and twist it's intended use like that I have seen any number of women wearing men's clothing, in particular, tuxedos, etc, and I never, ever considered it to be cross-dressing. It's just a woman in a tuxedo. But, then again, I'm not hung up like some people.

    RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    As long as you are comfortable with your own sexuality what does it matter what others may think?
    That's my position. Personally, I would have no problem wearing, say, a pink kilt (pink was a masculine colour until 1940's); to be quite frank, I don't give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys what the masses think of me. Same with my girlfriend.

    However, I find myself more often than not keeping the peace with my and her families. Oh well, it's the only family I've got, might as well not get thrown out .

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    I've heard someone call it "cross dressing with an excuse" and I must say that the fact that it was made for men and has been worn by men for centuries is one hell of an excuse.

    That was an extreme case involving someone who has some severe psychological issue with the kilt which I do not fully understand. I can say however that I can understand how people can see a kilt as bordering on cross dressing. In their minds, skirts are for women, and a kilt is a skirt. When it is not being worn at some sort of scottish event but instead is worn as normal clothing, many people will not think of the cultural context and therefore in their minds it's just a skirt and thus it is cross dressing. It's just a snap judgment based on their own culture's arbitrary distinctions between male and femal clothing. Most reasonable people can overcome such thinking (or lack thereof) when you simply explain that is a male garment, like many others which have been worn by men for thousands of years and that it is a pathetic man whose masculinity is dependent on the shape of the fabric he uses to cover his dangly parts.

    And again, to be fair, not everyone is familiar with the kilt and most definitely not with the accessories. Personally, I don't find hose and flashes to be particularly masculine (just my personal view) and I've even heard it argued that my kilt is feminine because of all the pleats, which this person had not known to be part of the kilt.

    In the end it all comes down to ignorance. What separates the excusable misunderstandings from the arrogant ******** is the willingness to be enlightened.
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