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26th January 08, 08:13 AM
#1
No my apologies – it was a late night for me also.
Having now seen the kilt in daylight I think I’ll dub it the “Bright Skye”. Aurora borealis.
Perhaps best worn in candlelight or campfire light

[FONT="Georgia"][B][I]-- Larry B.[/I][/B][/FONT]
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26th January 08, 08:45 AM
#2
Well.....I guess the good news is there doesn't appear to be much of a copyright violation...don't think anyone would mistake that for the Isle of Skye tartan at a highland games...
Terry, the kilt pin was a gift from my lady. She lives down on the Hopi reservation and commissioned an artist to make it. Its a bear design..she thinks I'm bear like...she also had a Thunderbird kilt pin made by the same artist. I love 'em. Silver of course.


Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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26th January 08, 10:54 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Well.....I guess the good news is there doesn't appear to be much of a copyright violation...don't think anyone would mistake that for the Isle of Skye tartan at a highland games...
I don't know, Ron. It's the same pattern, and the same colors (generally speaking), just the hues are way off. In other words, it really is the same tartan, just not done near as well. It seems to me that it's enough the same to still be a violation of copyright, but different enough that those who are attracted to the Isle of Skye colors in wool won't be as interested in this knock off version.
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26th January 08, 11:55 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
I don't know, Ron. It's the same pattern, and the same colors (generally speaking), just the hues are way off. In other words, it really is the same tartan, just not done near as well. It seems to me that it's enough the same to still be a violation of copyright, but different enough that those who are attracted to the Isle of Skye colors in wool won't be as interested in this knock off version.
Remember when all of the Pakistani mills were making the Irish National in Acrylic? Remember how BRIGHT the green was? Eventually, HOE (the copyright holder for Irish National) went after the resellers (and the mills, but that was harder to do as they are in Pakistan) and they had to stop carrying the kilts. Eventually the orders dried up for Irish National at the Pakistani mills and they stopped making it (except for Jerry at SWK who entered into an agreement with HOE to carry it if the colors were changed to ACCURATELY REFLECT the tartan).
I have a dozen swatches of Pakistan wool and acrylic here in our shop to show customers who are curious about different fabrics and the differences between the fabrcs. All of the colors tend to be VERY "intense".
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26th January 08, 12:04 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by RockyR
I have a dozen swatches of Pakistan wool and acrylic here in our shop to show customers who are curious about different fabrics and the differences between the fabrcs. All of the colors tend to be VERY "intense".
If the intense coloration is seen in both the wool and acrylic coming out of Pakistan, then maybe it's simply a reflection of different fashion preferences in the west and in the east. It could be that such bright and vivid colors are attractive to the Pakistani but not so much to us westerners. Much the same way that Coca-Cola made for sale in Africa is entirely different than Coke made for sale in the US. Different cultures, different tastes.
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26th January 08, 02:51 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
If the intense coloration is seen in both the wool and acrylic coming out of Pakistan, then maybe it's simply a reflection of different fashion preferences in the west and in the east. It could be that such bright and vivid colors are attractive to the Pakistani but not so much to us westerners. Much the same way that Coca-Cola made for sale in Africa is entirely different than Coke made for sale in the US. Different cultures, different tastes.
I'd LOVE to see a Loud MacLeod Acrylic kilt! HAHAHAHAHA
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26th January 08, 03:43 PM
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26th January 08, 02:21 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Terry, the kilt pin was a gift from my lady. She lives down on the Hopi reservation and commissioned an artist to make it. Its a bear design..she thinks I'm bear like...she also had a Thunderbird kilt pin made by the same artist. I love 'em. Silver of course.
Ron
Those are beautiful Ron!
Thanks for sharing them!
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"][FONT="Georgia"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][B][I]proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="1"]"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No @rse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]
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26th January 08, 08:48 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Larry124
No my apologies – it was a late night for me also.
Having now seen the kilt in daylight I think I’ll dub it the “Bright Skye”. Aurora borealis.
Perhaps best worn in candlelight or campfire light

I agree. Or in a room with th elights turned off. Sorry, Larry, but I think Frugal should have done a visual comparison of swatches before commissioning those kilts. If the mill followed the sett pattern correctly, I guess they can sell it as the Isle of Skye. But IIRC, FC started down this path after seeing how popular the tartan is on X-Marks, and I don't think they'll get as many takers for this as they might have otherwise if they reproduced the colors faithfully.
The original IOS designer's going to have a cow when she/he sees this version. I would. Even if I was getting royalties.
Convener, Georgia Chapter, House of Gordon (Boss H.O.G.)
Where 4 Scotsmen gather there'll usually be a fifth.
7/5 of the world's population have a difficult time with fractions.
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28th January 08, 04:45 PM
#10
Those colors look familiar ...

How many Mahna Mahnas did they harvest to make these kilts? 
If I were going to buy an Isle of Skye in something other wool, I would buy it in PV from Pete.
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