MacMillan modern black tartan

[Riverkilt]

Okay foul!!

Searching by name for MacMillan the STA only coughs up the hunting and the dress.

Going to the alphabetical dropdown there are five or six MacMillan tartans, including a very black one that is listed as a mill tartan #3494.

The MacMillan ancient # 6302 looks like what Marton Mills makes...and so that looks okay as a clan tartan. And there are some other nice looking variations.

Dang ferret was holding out. Probably best to do my STA searches with the alphabet drop down now, just in case.

Still hung up on the red and yellow dress tartan #1723.

Ron

[James MacMillan]

Okay foul!!

Searching by name for MacMillan the STA only coughs up the hunting and the dress.

Going to the alphabetical dropdown there are five or six MacMillan tartans, including a very black one that is listed as a mill tartan #3494.

The MacMillan ancient # 6302 looks like what Marton Mills makes...and so that looks okay as a clan tartan. And there are some other nice looking variations.

Dang ferret was holding out. Probably best to do my STA searches with the alphabet drop down now, just in case.

Still hung up on the red and yellow dress tartan #1723.

Ron

Several times, when I discuss my dislike for the "official" clan tartan, I have been directed to the "black" MacMillan....... -and it looked like Ron had found one, but when I try to find #3494, I don't get a black tartan, I get a grey one......

What gives?

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Remember, gang, that the tartans listed on the STA site (the International Tartan Index) are going to be fairly comprehensive, and include fashion tartans and personal tartans, as well as the officially recognized clan tartans.

For instance, 3494 is a fashion MacMillan, woven by West Coast Woolen Mills in Canada; who produced a wide variety of fashion designs. Most likely this tartan has no connection with the MacMillan clan at all, except that it seems to be a color change of the MacMillan hunting.

But my point is that the presence or absence of a tartan in the ITI shouldn't be taken to imply anything at all about that tartan's official status with the clan. The STA provides this index as an information source. It is the clan chief who determines what the clan tartans are.

[fluter]

Searching by name for MacMillan the STA only coughs up the hunting and the dress... Dang ferret was holding out.

That's what I get (2 tartans) if I search from the surname field. If I enter MacMillan in the tartan name field, I get all 6.

For whatever it's worth.