Kilmarnock Bonnets

[macwilkin]

Aye, the Gurkha Kilmarnock certainly does, much like this NWMP pillbox:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/history/im...illbox_cap.jpg

In contrast, here is Matt's Hummel bonnet:

http://albanach.org/hummel.jpg

You can see progression, but I wouldn't say that the AASR cap is a substitute. It's going to look like a Scottish Rite cap with the Eagle removed.

T.

[Warlock]

Aye, you're right laddie!

[macwilkin]

Aye, you're right laddie!

I am I still a "laddie" at 33?

T.

[Warlock]

I am still 10 years your senior. Besides it's not the years, it's the milage. Life has backed up over me SEVERAL times! No offense was meant though.

[Tartan Hiker]

Besides it's not the years, it's the milage.

Hey...I resemble that remark!

[Warlock]

How the heck dya think I got so UGLY?

[orangehaggis]

As Mr. Newsome pointed out, there are several bonnets called "Kilmarnock." The one I refer to, and if I'm not mistake, MacMillan was enquiring about is the very stiff cap worn by the Royal Company of Archers. Picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:R...of_Archers.jpg

What Mr. Newsome offers, I know as a hummel bonnet. I have also heard the Gurkha bonnet called "Kilmarnock."

I believe there was an infantry regiment that wore the Archers' style board Kilmarnock. I can't recall which, however!

Mark - Ohio

[orangehaggis]

Additionally, I see in a few articles the Archers' headpiece is called a "balmoral." As you can see, the Archers bunnet is no mere balmoral!

Mark - Ohio

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

As Mr. Newsome pointed out, there are several bonnets called "Kilmarnock." The one I refer to, and if I'm not mistake, MacMillan was enquiring about is the very stiff cap worn by the Royal Company of Archers. Picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:R...of_Archers.jpg

What Mr. Newsome offers, I know as a hummel bonnet. I have also heard the Gurkha bonnet called "Kilmarnock."

I believe there was an infantry regiment that wore the Archers' style board Kilmarnock. I can't recall which, however!

Mark - Ohio

Mark,

you are thinking of the Royal Scots. Col. Iain Gold-Stone (late of the 2nd Gurkhas) always referred to their headgear as a pill-box, never a Kilmarnock. As he was born in Glasgow and served originally with the Cameronians, before being promoted from the ranks, I'm sure he knew the difference. Officers of the Greys wore the pill-box from 1857-1902 (O.R.s from 1869-1903) and, please correct me if I am in error, I believe it was technically called a stable cap, at least in mounted regiments.

[macwilkin]

Mark,

you are thinking of the Royal Scots. Col. Iain Gold-Stone (late of the 2nd Gurkhas) always referred to their headgear as a pill-box, never a Kilmarnock. As he was born in Glasgow and served originally with the Cameronians, before being promoted from the ranks, I'm sure he knew the difference. Officers of the Greys wore the pill-box from 1857-1902 (O.R.s from 1869-1903) and, please correct me if I am in error, I believe it was technically called a stable cap, at least in mounted regiments.

Scott,

You'll have to take th issue of a Gurkha Kilmarnock up with Mike Chappell, ex-RSM, 1st Bn., The Wessex Regiment. Chappell is the author of The Gurkhas, and it is he that identifies the Gurkha pillbox as a "Kilmarnock" bonnet. Incidently, he has an illustration of the Simoor Battalion (later 2nd Gurkhas) wearing Kilmarnocks like the one the Archers are wearing, during the Great Mutiny of 1857. These particular Kilmarnocks are diced with red and black dicing.

I might drop the Gurkha Museum at Winchester an e-mail over this one.

And speaking of confusion over the names of covers, let's not forget that the Irish Defence Forces wear a caubeen called a "glengarry"!

T.