Lifting a Kilt

[northernsky]

Indeed an interesting point. I suppose it depends on where your personal boundaries are and what you consider acceptable behaviour. I dare say no one here would say to a woman "if you don't like having your dress raised then don't wear dresses". To my mind allowing this kind of thing encourages antisocial behaviour. Each time an attempt is made it is an opportunity to educate and socialize. In my school being 'pantsed' (that is having your pants pulled down in public by others) is quite popular amongst the grade 8's. Would I say to the poor child who has been publicly humiliated, if you don't like it, don't wear pants? To my mind rudeness is rudeness and should never go unchallenged.

[ccga3359]

Indeed an interesting point. I suppose it depends on where your personal boundaries are and what you consider acceptable behaviour. I dare say no one here would say to a woman "if you don't like having your dress raised then don't wear dresses". To my mind allowing this kind of thing encourages antisocial behaviour. Each time an attempt is made it is an opportunity to educate and socialize. In my school being 'pantsed' (that is having your pants pulled down in public by others) is quite popular amongst the grade 8's. Would I say to the poor child who has been publicly humiliated, if you don't like it, don't wear pants? To my mind rudeness is rudeness and should never go unchallenged.

Agreed but as kilt wearers we have prior knowledge of what may happen, kilt check, kilt raise, the question. To some of us it is one of the many reasons to wear a kilt, the allure and the power. But having this prior knowledge can we be that shocked when it does happen? No. We do have a right to be offended (to a degree) and to react appropriately (to a degree), they have broken the law after all. None of us will give up the power by not wearing a kilt because of it but unlike that child at school it is by our choice that we are kilted. I have a healthy sense of humour and I'm not easily offended, I don't go around encouraging this behaviour but there are times I will play up the "myth". Please note the quotation marks as there really is no myth, non-kilt wearers know what the probabilities are and most kilt lifts are non starters, merely gestering.

[Nick the DSM]

I dont agree with "if you stress about having it lifted dont wear it" statement. It goes the same with pants, prepare yourself of it beig pulled down or lifted. how will you react should be your first thing to prepare, next- what will you say and finally how will you make yourself look cool and the other person a total (insert word) without making it worse.

[Captain Karrot]

I don't go around encouraging this behaviour.

Come on, Grant, be honest. Don't you encourage it just a little bit? Maybe putting yourself in an area where you hope it will? ;)

[ccga3359]

Come on, Grant, be honest. Don't you encourage it just a little bit? Maybe putting yourself in an area where you hope it will? ;)

When we played pool together I was positioning myself to make a better shot, not to entice the lasses behind me (who were actually eyeing up McMurdo).

[Captain Karrot]

When we played pool together I was positioning myself to make a better shot, not to entice the lasses behind me (who were actually eyeing up McMurdo).

Yeah...during pool. But after I seem to remember standing near the table, seeing some candidates, and some strategic repositioning ;)

[Rex_Tremende]

Indeed an interesting point. I suppose it depends on where your personal boundaries are and what you consider acceptable behaviour. I dare say no one here would say to a woman "if you don't like having your dress raised then don't wear dresses". To my mind allowing this kind of thing encourages antisocial behaviour. Each time an attempt is made it is an opportunity to educate and socialize. In my school being 'pantsed' (that is having your pants pulled down in public by others) is quite popular amongst the grade 8's. Would I say to the poor child who has been publicly humiliated, if you don't like it, don't wear pants? To my mind rudeness is rudeness and should never go unchallenged.

I think there is a difference between lifting a lass's dress and lifting a gent's kilt, and it has to do with the presumed intent. For the guys, it's about humiliation, but the message transmitted to the lasses is one of power and potential violence. I absolutely agree that in either case it's stupid, unwanted, and likely criminal behavior, and we'd all be better off if people stopped doing stuff to each other that we rather they didn't. But if someone lifts my kilt, I really expect that will be the end of the encounter. I will guage my reaction accordingly.

Regards,
Rex.