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8th March 08, 08:55 AM
#81
Originally Posted by James MacMillan
...If you are one of those who stress out about getting your kilt raised, maybe you shouldn't be wearing a kilt!
An excellent point James
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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8th March 08, 09:00 AM
#82
Originally Posted by James MacMillan
If you are one of those who stress out about getting your kilt raised, maybe you shouldn't be wearing a kilt!
Originally Posted by Panache
An excellent point James
Cheers
Jamie
Eh hello, opposite problem over here .
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8th March 08, 09:04 AM
#83
Indeed an interesting point. I suppose it depends on where your personal boundaries are and what you consider acceptable behaviour. I dare say no one here would say to a woman "if you don't like having your dress raised then don't wear dresses". To my mind allowing this kind of thing encourages antisocial behaviour. Each time an attempt is made it is an opportunity to educate and socialize. In my school being 'pantsed' (that is having your pants pulled down in public by others) is quite popular amongst the grade 8's. Would I say to the poor child who has been publicly humiliated, if you don't like it, don't wear pants? To my mind rudeness is rudeness and should never go unchallenged.
His Grace Lord Stuart in the Middle of Fishkill St Wednesday
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8th March 08, 09:05 AM
#84
Well, my husband certainly isn't going to lose sleep over it, but I do know that he won't encourage it or tolerate it. I'm sure he'll handle things with a cool head.
As his wife, I'm not particularly amused at the thought of some "lady" or "gentleman" accosting my husband in that manner and we will BOTH let them know it's inappropriate behavior. I know he wouldn't allow someone to lift my skirt (nor would I).
Handling things with a cool head... yes. Especially depending on the situation and person involved. I think each instance has to be considered with the reaction necessary.
It still doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior if you don't want it happening.
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8th March 08, 09:25 AM
#85
Originally Posted by northernsky
Indeed an interesting point. I suppose it depends on where your personal boundaries are and what you consider acceptable behaviour. I dare say no one here would say to a woman "if you don't like having your dress raised then don't wear dresses". To my mind allowing this kind of thing encourages antisocial behaviour. Each time an attempt is made it is an opportunity to educate and socialize. In my school being 'pantsed' (that is having your pants pulled down in public by others) is quite popular amongst the grade 8's. Would I say to the poor child who has been publicly humiliated, if you don't like it, don't wear pants? To my mind rudeness is rudeness and should never go unchallenged.
Agreed but as kilt wearers we have prior knowledge of what may happen, kilt check, kilt raise, the question. To some of us it is one of the many reasons to wear a kilt, the allure and the power. But having this prior knowledge can we be that shocked when it does happen? No. We do have a right to be offended (to a degree) and to react appropriately (to a degree), they have broken the law after all. None of us will give up the power by not wearing a kilt because of it but unlike that child at school it is by our choice that we are kilted. I have a healthy sense of humour and I'm not easily offended, I don't go around encouraging this behaviour but there are times I will play up the "myth". Please note the quotation marks as there really is no myth, non-kilt wearers know what the probabilities are and most kilt lifts are non starters, merely gestering.
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8th March 08, 09:28 AM
#86
I've only worn my kilt in public twice, and one place was a festival where kilts were common.
The other place was a place where they may have never seen a kilt, and everybody in the bar checked the kilt out. Only the guy serving us asked "The Question" (in a very quiet, "just between you and me" manner).
I don't stress over somebody lifting the kilt, but I'd view it as a major invasion of personal space. Friends joking and even touching the kilt is one thing, but strangers another.
I understand that people are going to ask and be curious--that's fine. But if anybody tried lifting the kilt, I'd stop them. If it were a woman, I'd tell her if I lifted a woman's skirt, I'd most likely have charges brought against me, and if it were a guy, I'd lock eyes and tell him to stop (I'm bigger than the average guy and the look has served me very well in my 38 years).
Asking what's beneath the kilt is one thing, but lifting is another. I'd do my best to dispel the situation with tact and humor if the moment called for it.
Anybody lifting the kilt would probably be happy I put an end to it instead of my wife, Cynthia. She's a pretty tough Texan!
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8th March 08, 09:32 AM
#87
I dont agree with "if you stress about having it lifted dont wear it" statement. It goes the same with pants, prepare yourself of it beig pulled down or lifted. how will you react should be your first thing to prepare, next- what will you say and finally how will you make yourself look cool and the other person a total (insert word) without making it worse.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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8th March 08, 11:23 AM
#88
Only my wife & two-year old daughter lift my kilt and that is to "floofle" it, disrupting the pleats and aggravating me. Should a woman ever do that I would be flattered, embarrassed and restraining my wife. If a man were to do it, a simple, arrogant, "How high ARE you?" look should suffice.
Its part of the territory.
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8th March 08, 12:07 PM
#89
Originally Posted by ccga3359
I don't go around encouraging this behaviour.
Come on, Grant, be honest. Don't you encourage it just a little bit? Maybe putting yourself in an area where you hope it will? ;)
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8th March 08, 12:13 PM
#90
Originally Posted by Captain Karrot
Come on, Grant, be honest. Don't you encourage it just a little bit? Maybe putting yourself in an area where you hope it will? ;)
When we played pool together I was positioning myself to make a better shot, not to entice the lasses behind me (who were actually eyeing up McMurdo).
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