Lifting a Kilt

[Captain Karrot]

When we played pool together I was positioning myself to make a better shot, not to entice the lasses behind me (who were actually eyeing up McMurdo).

Yeah...during pool. But after I seem to remember standing near the table, seeing some candidates, and some strategic repositioning ;)

[Rex_Tremende]

Indeed an interesting point. I suppose it depends on where your personal boundaries are and what you consider acceptable behaviour. I dare say no one here would say to a woman "if you don't like having your dress raised then don't wear dresses". To my mind allowing this kind of thing encourages antisocial behaviour. Each time an attempt is made it is an opportunity to educate and socialize. In my school being 'pantsed' (that is having your pants pulled down in public by others) is quite popular amongst the grade 8's. Would I say to the poor child who has been publicly humiliated, if you don't like it, don't wear pants? To my mind rudeness is rudeness and should never go unchallenged.

I think there is a difference between lifting a lass's dress and lifting a gent's kilt, and it has to do with the presumed intent. For the guys, it's about humiliation, but the message transmitted to the lasses is one of power and potential violence. I absolutely agree that in either case it's stupid, unwanted, and likely criminal behavior, and we'd all be better off if people stopped doing stuff to each other that we rather they didn't. But if someone lifts my kilt, I really expect that will be the end of the encounter. I will guage my reaction accordingly.

Regards,
Rex.

[Mael Coluim]

Quite a few times when I am out with the wife, another gal will come up to her and ask the question. She tells them give me $XX and I'll show you.

Never any takers, just a big laugh!

[ccga3359]

Quite a few times when I am out with the wife, another gal will come up to her and ask the question. She tells them give me $XX and I'll show you.

Never any takers, just a big laugh!

Perhaps reduce by half a $X. New kilts cost money.

[Mael Coluim]

Perhaps reduce by half a $X. New kilts cost money.

Ah, Grant you called my bluff. I used double XX's but Sharon only asks for 5 bucks!

[TechBear]

I am a gentleman first and foremost, and a gentleman knows how to deal with rude people and remain a gentleman.

I agree with what your post, but I would like to address the part I quoted above.

In Washington State, lifting a skirt or kilt can be construed as voyeurism, which is a class C felony (the statute is RCW 9A.44.115, with court precedents extending this to include "merely" lifting skirts.) A gentleman would not excuse criminal behavior as mere rudeness, as this invites the perpetrator to continue engaging in criminal activity.

The one time I was subjected to such an indignity, I turned to the person and reminded him of this law, pointing out that it was a felony and that if I pressed charges, he could face the rest of his life as a registered sex offender.

I never saw a drunk sober up that fast before.

[BoldHighlander]

The one time I was subjected to such an indignity, I turned to the person and reminded him of this law, pointing out that it was a felony and that if I pressed charges, he could face the rest of his life as a registered sex offender.

I never saw a drunk sober up that fast before.

I'll remember that one

[cwr89]

I'd say my worst lifting instance was at school a few months ago. first time I wore a kilt this year, some sophomore guy who though he was the biggest baddest person in the world comes up to me in the lunch line and grabs the back of my kilt as I am talking to some friends. What he saw was a pair of black boxers with a picture of a pint of Guinness on them.(I have a personal rule that in order to not offend anyone and give kilties a bad rep I wear something under when in public) I turned and he said "looks like your not man enough to go all the way". I just smiled and said "looks like your not man enough to wear a kilt." that crushed him. later that day I get a pass to go to the office. I walk in and he is sitting there and has to formally apologize for an act of aggression towards my heritage. They caught it on camera and were most displeased that a sophomore would even approach a senior like that.

I was not bothered by the lift but it was nice for the recognition of my school to my heritage. I am just glad that none of my other senior friends (2 of which are now kilties with me) didn't absolutely kill the kid.

oh well, I guess it was justice.

I had a lifting that jokingly got me to pull the sgain out. it was a coworker that I know well and damned if he lifted after I warned him not to try. I didn't do anything just a little scare tactic. it was all in good fun, well received on his part. I don't think that whipping out a sgain is a good idea in all instances. or at all in that matter. this was in good fun.

~Casey

[The Supreme Canuck]

The one time I was subjected to such an indignity, I turned to the person and reminded him of this law, pointing out that it was a felony and that if I pressed charges, he could face the rest of his life as a registered sex offender.

Though it's never happened to me, that's definitely what I'd do. I might also demand an apology.

[northernsky]

Although I have never had my kilt lifted at school. I generally take some ribbing from colleagues and students alike. However, each time I wear it the comments lessen. Today there have been none at all, except for compliments! The kids generally get used to almost anything over time, and my colleagues have realized that I don't rise to their bait.