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    But if you destroy the box then there is no longer the possibility of thinking outside it, as there is no longer an outside, though it could be argued that the destruction negates even the concept of there being an inside, and that after it is gone all thought is outside the box.

    If the cat is still there has the experiment been expanded or has the universe shrunk?
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    That's it!! I'm sticking to 42!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pleater View Post
    But if you destroy the box then there is no longer the possibility of thinking outside it, as there is no longer an outside, though it could be argued that the destruction negates even the concept of there being an inside, and that after it is gone all thought is outside the box.

    If the cat is still there has the experiment been expanded or has the universe shrunk?


    The destruction of the box results in the experiment becoming a single sided mobius sphear because the observer still observes and the cat also observes. The experiment had been being conducted, therefore, had a beginning and end. The observers of both the inside and outside of the box continued after the destruction of the box, so the observers have created a time loop in remembering that there was a box. This of course takes the form of a sphear or bubble, but there is only a single side because there was one box being observed by two observers. In other words, there was only one box, but the box now only exists in the minds of the observers. Both observers observed that there was only one box, but now there are two boxes, one in each mind of each observer.

    The cat only knew the box from the inside, and the observer on the outside only knew the outside. That is during the experiment. So the one box exists in full in two minds as one box. A little like a hologram... I guess. Therefore, the box or universe is copied over and over from different observations and memories and exists across the whole of all that observes creating a universe both inside and outside of itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jako Dar View Post
    That's it!! I'm sticking to 42!!
    Yes, but what's the bloody question? It can't be the one that came up in the series (be it the radio series, the TV series, or the books) as no one writes jokes in base 13. And I'm not sure I buy mutual exclusivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey View Post
    Yes, but what's the bloody question? It can't be the one that came up in the series (be it the radio series, the TV series, or the books) as no one writes jokes in base 13. And I'm not sure I buy mutual exclusivity.


    Yes, that is where the nature of the interactive expantion of the box by the multiple observers of a single event comes in. The box becomes to be bigger than itself, but still itself in propetual expantion. On the other hand, I like oatmeal cookies.
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    What if we put the box in a Klein Bottle?

    Is Schröedinger's Cat dead or alive, or has it gotten bored and wandered off somewhere?

    This all brings us back to one of the major problems in the world today - that old vexed question of what is going on. Is there still time to confront it, let alone solve it, or is it too late? What are the figures, what are the facts, what do people mean when they talk about things?

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    I think I'll go back to oatmeal cookies and group hugs.

    GROUP HUG!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    I think I'll go back to oatmeal cookies and group hugs.

    GROUP HUG!!
    Now that would be ?

    42 GROUP HUGS

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    Ya, that's nice. Then we can have some cookies.

    No hard feelings, we were just all being silly. And everything's all better now.
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