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                                                14th March 08, 07:03 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Casey, this sounds like an interesting topic for a paper!  I haven't been discriminated against because of my kiltwearing so I can't help you there.  
 I think a good place to start would be to explain the difference between "discrimination", "prejudice" and "sterotyping".
 
 
 
	Your example above illustrates stereotypical and prejudical behaviour (as well as blatant stupidity) but it isn't discrimination unless they take some action (either positive or negative) it.  i.e. Casey is wearing a kilt therefore he is "A" and I will not hire him because he is "A".
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cwr89   Now, if you think this is rediculus then do tell me so, but I know from my kilt days that people no matter where I am (highland games are the exception) make comments about my sexual oreintation. 
 ~Casey
 
 The most obvious discrimination against kilts is in the workplace when men are prohibited from wearing kilts yet other cultures are allowed to wear their respective garb.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 07:13 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Casey, I think you may need to narrow your topic a bit. "Unbifurcated Clothing" could encompass everything from kilts to kimonos to cocktail frocs. In other words your on the slippery slope of cross-dressing. You may wish to use society's issues with men cross-dressing as part of your argument why "kilt discrimination" exists, but I don't think you want to try and cover them under the same umbrella. There are too many different issues to deal with. If you do use cross-dressing as an argument make sure you point out the hypocrisy of women wearing men's style of clothing. You may also want to point out the hypocrisy in accepting some forms of traditional dress and not others.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cwr89   So, officially I am going to be writing about "Discrimination Of Men And Unbifurcated Clothing". 
 Hope this helps.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 07:26 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It seems like every year a kid is banned from prom or some other similar function for wearing a kilt.  Probably the most famous was the guy a couple of years back from Missouri.  I believe his last name was Warmack.  There was a big brouhaha with the principle ultimately backing down (too late of course) and issuing an apology.  Go to www.realmenwearkilts.com and find information on Mr. Warmack as well as others who have suffered kilt discrimination.
 Dean
 Fac Et Spera!
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 07:48 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/d...x.html?t=27539
 Check out Riverkilts problem but it was resolved.
 and check out Nathan Warmack's story.
 
 http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/n...hlight=warmack
 
 Could be a start.
 
 I did the search in Xmark for Prom and got quite a few hits.
 
 MrBill
 Very Sir Lord MrBill the Essential of Happy BottomshireListen to  kpcw.org
 
 Every other Saturday 1-4 PM
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 08:01 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have not experienced any kilt related discrimination in over six years of full time wearing, it has all centered around my tattoos. ;)
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 08:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by mbhandy   A little more on that Nathan Warmack case:
 
 http://friendsofdonthebagpiper.tribe...2-db12809f772b
 
 Good luck with your paper!
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 08:21 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I do not know exactly what all information you need, and I do not want to make a long post, so I am going to PM you with my story. Just glean from this what you need & disregard the rest.
 I'll have it at you after about noonish Central Time.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 08:25 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	My thoughts exactly!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Chef   Casey, I think you may need to narrow your topic a bit. "Unbifurcated Clothing" could encompass everything from kilts to kimonos to cocktail frocs. In other words your on the slippery slope of cross-dressing. You may wish to use society's issues with men cross-dressing as part of your argument why "kilt discrimination" exists, but I don't think you want to try and cover them under the same umbrella. There are too many different issues to deal with. If you do use cross-dressing as an argument make sure you point out the hypocrisy of women wearing men's style of clothing. You may also want to point out the hypocrisy in accepting some forms of traditional dress and not others.
 Hope this helps.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 08:28 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					We had a very good example of discrinination in a thread just in the last week or two.
 Do a search here for threads on "The Question" & "Kilt Lifting".
 
 Then take a note pad, your kilt, and go to the Student Union and stand in the hall and ask everyone you can find;
 
 "Why is it perceived to be acceptable to ask a man in a kilt 'The Question' or lift his kilt, when it is Sexual Assualt to do the same to a woman.(or even a man in trousers)"
 Steve Ashtonwww.freedomkilts.com
 Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
 I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th March 08, 08:35 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Excellent idea Steve!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC   We had a very good example of discrinination in a thread just in the last week or two.
 Do a search here for threads on "The Question" & "Kilt Lifting".
 
 Then take a note pad, your kilt, and go to the Student Union and stand in the hall and ask everyone you can find;
 
 "Why is it perceived to be acceptable to ask a man in a kilt 'The Question' or lift his kilt, when it is Sexual Assualt to do the same to a woman.(or even a man in trousers)"
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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