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16th April 08, 10:29 AM
#21
Good idea, especially the K-bar model. Just don't forget to put it in your checked baggage before going through airport security.
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17th April 08, 01:11 AM
#22
Having served as an officer of the "Bayonet Division"......the 7th US Infantry Division, I would love to have such a kilt pin. When I was with them in Korea in the late 60's every man assigned to the division, officer and enlisted and including medics, cooks, aviators and clerks, had a half hour of bayonet training every week
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17th April 08, 08:27 AM
#23
As I understand it:
K-BAR stands for "Knife, Browning Automatic Rifle."
As the BAR did not have a bayonet lug. BAR gunners needed a general purpose knife that others used their bayonet for. It is not actually a Marine Corp Specific item.
But Marines are far more attached to the design than the Army...
I carried one on my web gear in the 82nd Airborne div in the 80s.
“Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, taste the fruit, drink the drink, and resign yourself to the influences of each.” H.D. Thoreau
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17th April 08, 11:11 AM
#24
Originally Posted by Richland
As I understand it:
K-BAR stands for "Knife, Browning Automatic Rifle."
As the BAR did not have a bayonet lug. BAR gunners needed a general purpose knife that others used their bayonet for. It is not actually a Marine Corp Specific item.
But Marines are far more attached to the design than the Army...
I carried one on my web gear in the 82nd Airborne div in the 80s.
Never heard that story. Most accounts consider the name to have come from the Kabar Cutlery Co, the name of one of the principal suppliers of the knife. Kabar Cutlery (formerly Union Cutlery and other names) claims to have adopted the name from a letter received from a semi-literate mountaineer proudly proclaiming that he "kilt a bar" with one of the company's knives. (No, it wasn't Davey Crockett*, though there seems to be a common thread.) For a time Kabar used a logo depicting a man single-handedly fighting a bear with a knife.
*Yeah, that's where I got my forum name, though I haven't killed any bears, with knives or otherwise--we just share a first name and a Scottish heritage.
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18th April 08, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Richland
I carried one on my web gear in the 82nd Airborne div in the 80s.
As did I for my tour in OIF 04-05. Had to explain what it was to a 2LT, though, as he had never seen one before.
"My beloved America, thank you for your children. If your children want to become soldiers I will train them. When they are hungry I will feed them. When they are thirsty I will give them water. When they fight for freedom I will lead them. When they are unsteady on the battlefield I will motivate them. If they die on the battlefield I will bury them. So help me God."
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18th April 08, 11:19 PM
#26
Originally Posted by Richland
As I understand it:
K-BAR stands for "Knife, Browning Automatic Rifle."
As the BAR did not have a bayonet lug. BAR gunners needed a general purpose knife that others used their bayonet for. It is not actually a Marine Corp Specific item.
But Marines are far more attached to the design than the Army...
I carried one on my web gear in the 82nd Airborne div in the 80s.
The company that makes the Kabar has a version of it's naming history ..here..
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18th April 08, 11:51 PM
#27
Don't mean to side track - it sort of on track - but Kathy Lare's husband Rob had taken the aluminum replica KBars sold as letter openers and added a leather sheath with the EGA and sold them as sgian dubhs.
I love mine. Its decorative, not functional, but that distinctive handle poking out of the top of kilt hose certainly sends a loud message.
To stay on track, I don't know that he's experienced huge sales. Just me, but seems the KBar sgian dubh would sell more than a similar kilt pin....?
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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19th April 08, 08:13 AM
#28
Wish there was a Kabar sgian dubh
If I could find a real knife patterned after the Kabar that was sized to the sgian dubh - like no longer than six inches, I would quickly order one. I have a letter opener that is similar to the one you picture Ron, but it’s just not worth carrying in the sock as it can’t cut anything - - It just doesn’t cut it …
For me, if I could find one, with the personal sentimental value attached to that fine blade design, I think it would quickly become my standard sock knife.
Wish there was a Kabar sgian dubh!
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19th April 08, 10:52 AM
#29
Aye Jay,
All this gives is the handle "look."
There'd be a second of the real sgian dubh size sold here.
Wonder if the factory would entertain the idea. They'd be the logical ones.
Okay, I just did that. Emailed the KA-BAR factory with the idea and background on why they'd sell. You'd think one KA-BAR sgian dubh for every Leatherneck tartan kilt sold...might also have a wider market as a small belt knife and a boot knife.
Ron
Last edited by Riverkilt; 19th April 08 at 11:00 AM.
Reason: Extreme optimism
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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20th April 08, 10:46 AM
#30
was a sapper in RVN, used a bayonet all the time. sounds like a great idea, it would be something that i could relate too. i want one!
semper fi
slick
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