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                                                22nd April 08, 02:08 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					J. Higgins is an American company, so they're probably using the term vest in the American context, which is to say, waistcoat.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd April 08, 02:53 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	The difference between England and America is that in America we think 100 years is a long time, and in England, they think 100 miles is a long way.  ;)
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Riverkilt   Tartan undershirt...?  Vest....?
 Two great peoples seperated by a common language...
 
 Ron
 "To the make of a piper go seven years of his own learning, and seven generations before. At the end of his seven years one born to it will stand at the start of knowledge, and leaning a fond ear to the drone he may have parley with old folks of old affairs." - Neil Munro
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 10:29 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Just kidding.Just kidding.
 
 I was looking at J. Higgins for a tartan waistcoat, but this has become a British English/American English debate.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 10:35 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Personally, I think that price is a pretty good deal for a custom made vest.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 10:50 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Why would you ask that?  There has been no implication of such.  J. Higgins is an American Co. not UK.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by gilmore   So, what were formerly waistcoats are now vests in the UK? 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 10:51 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					But it would work if you knew where your kilt fabric came from right?
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 11:02 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I have to add, though....if you ever even considered the possibility of sewing up a garment yourself, a vest would be a great place to start. They're not hard, at all, and there are commercial patterns available for them for only a few dollars (or Euros).
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 12:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Interestingly enough, I was talking to Duncan Chisholm of "Chisholms Kiltmakers of Inverness" a very very traditional and well respected kilt maker and he used the term "vest" when I would have used the term "waistcoat".An international tailoring term,I wonder?
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 12:28 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I think waistcoat should be preferred over vest as the later really does refer to the garment worn next to the skin under a gentleman's shirt. It also sounds waaay cooler.  That said, there is no reason the tartans have to match (although that is my preference), or the sett be the same size for both the waistcoat and kilt. The one thing you should do is have the waistcoat cut on the bias to avoid the "bib overall kilt" look. 
 My kilt maker in Edinburgh used to have small setts of light weight wool tartan on hand for making up matching waistcoats.  (I suspect he got his supply from the same mills that made up the tartan for the ties sold in most tartan shops.)
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                23rd April 08, 12:29 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					The real trick is to find matching tartan fabric.  Unfortunately, my sewing is limited to buttons back on shirts these days.  If even that.
 So, a tailor sounds good, especially if the price is right.  Unfortunately, Higgins doesn't accept Amex.  And it doesn't seem right to go to Sam, the Hong Kong tailor for this.
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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