The Clearances

[James MacMillan]

Sources, please?

You are confusing two distinct groups -- Highlanders and Ulster-Scots. The former were mostly Episcopalian or Roman Catholic in religion, the latter Presbyterian. The two groups had very little in common, and the Highlanders did not share the Ulster-Scots' revolutionary zeal. Also, Most Highlanders had no notion of republicanism that the Ulster-Scots embraced.

Sure, some Highlanders did embrace the cause, Hugh Mercer, for example, an ex-Jacobite, but most remained neutral or did fight for the crown.

You are quite correct that the Ulster-Scots did make up a huge part of the rebel forces -- one MP said, "Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson, and there is nothing we can do about it". But I'm afraid I cannot agree with your claim that Highland Scots overwhelmingly embraced the rebellion.

You might wish to take a look at Duane Meyer's The Highland Scots of North Carolina, one of the best studies of Highland immigration out there.

Again, I'd love to see your sources.

Regards,

Todd

Sources, please?

[macwilkin]

Sources, please?

Hunter, James. A Dance Called America: the Scottish Highlands, the United States, and Canada. Edinburgh: Mainstream, 1995.

Meyer, Duane. The Highland Scots of North Carolina, 1732-1776. Chapel Hill: U. of NC Press, 1961, 1987.

Moore, Christopher. The Loyalists: revolution, exile and settlement. Toronto : McClelland & Stewart, 1994.

Ray, Celeste. Highland Heritage: Scottish Americans in the American South. Chapel Hill: U. of NC Press, 2001.

Szasz, Fernec M. Scots in the North American West, 1790-1917. Norman: U. of Oklahoma Press, 2000.

Toffey, John J. A woman nobly planned : fact and myth in the legacy of Flora MacDonald. Durham, N.C. : Carolina Academic Press, c1997.

[macwilkin]

One more:

Leyburn, James G. The Scotch-Irish: a social history. Chapel Hill, University of North Carolina Press, 1962, 1989.

T.

[JS Sanders]

It's fascinating how the original question I posed two days ago has evolved into its present condition.

One of cajunscot's sources, Celeste Ray's Highland Heritage: Scottish Americans in the American South is worth noting. I read this a coupla years ago and would strongly suggest the same for anyone with even a passing interest. It's more of a textbook, but not narcoleptic. Though her research was centered on South'ners, there's much overlap to other Scotophiles in the US.

Prof Ray's a professor of anthropology at the University of the South and writes of "the phenomenal growth of the Scottish heritage movement across the US".

She notes that the movement is dominated by "highlandism," a phenomenon she defines as ScotoAmericans, regardless of their ancestral regional origins (Lowland, Highland, Ulster Scots), "claim a Highland Scots identity constructed in the 19th century through romanticism, militarism, & tourism."

Highland Heritage is another eye-opening book much like John Prebble's The Highland Clearances and James Hunter's A Dance Called America. Highly recommended.

A sidenote.... I bought James Hunter's book, Glencoe and the Indians, but haven't made time to read it yet.

Slainte yall,
steve

[macwilkin]

It's fascinating how the original question I posed two days ago has evolved into its present condition.

One of cajunscot's sources, Celeste Ray's Highland Heritage: Scottish Americans in the American South is worth noting. I read this a coupla years ago and would strongly suggest the same for anyone with even a passing interest. It's more of a textbook, but not narcoleptic. Though her research was centered on South'ners, there's much overlap to other Scotophiles in the US.

Prof Ray's a professor of anthropology at the University of the South and writes of "the phenomenal growth of the Scottish heritage movement across the US".

She notes that the movement is dominated by "highlandism," a phenomenon she defines as ScotoAmericans, regardless of their ancestral regional origins (Lowland, Highland, Ulster Scots), "claim a Highland Scots identity constructed in the 19th century through romanticism, militarism, & tourism."

Highland Heritage is another eye-opening book much like John Prebble's The Highland Clearances and James Hunter's A Dance Called America. Highly recommended.

A sidenote.... I bought James Hunter's book, Glencoe and the Indians, but haven't made time to read it yet.

Slainte yall,
steve

Glencoe & the Indians was released on this side of the pond by the Montana State Historical Society as Scottish Highlanders, Indian Peoples (Warning! Here be spoliers!):

http://mhs.mt.gov/pub/press/scothigh.asp

Ray's book is an eye-opener, INMHO. Once you read it, you will never look at a highland games the same way again. I saw some very striking parallels to Civil War reenacting when I read it.

Regards,

Todd

[sharpdressedscot]

Once you read it, you will never look at a highland games the same way again.

In a good way or bad??

[macwilkin]

In a good way or bad??

Hmm...tough question to answer. I wouldn't say it's necessarily bad, but it might make you take a good look at some of the things you see at the games.

T.

[JS Sanders]

<< In a good way or bad?? >>

In a positive fashion. You'll still enjoy the Games but with greater appreciation - and perhaps amusement.


<< Glencoe & the Indians was released on this side of the pond by the Montana State Historical Society as Scottish Highlanders, Indian Peoples >>

Cajunscot - I was unaware of that. It'd explain why I had such difficulty locating a copy in the US. Mine was purchased at a gift shop on Skye.

Slainte yall,
steve

[James MacMillan]

Hunter, James. A Dance Called America: the Scottish Highlands, the United States, and Canada. Edinburgh: Mainstream, 1995.

Meyer, Duane. The Highland Scots of North Carolina, 1732-1776. Chapel Hill: U. of NC Press, 1961, 1987.

Moore, Christopher. The Loyalists: revolution, exile and settlement. Toronto : McClelland & Stewart, 1994.

Ray, Celeste. Highland Heritage: Scottish Americans in the American South. Chapel Hill: U. of NC Press, 2001.

Szasz, Fernec M. Scots in the North American West, 1790-1917. Norman: U. of Oklahoma Press, 2000.

Toffey, John J. A woman nobly planned : fact and myth in the legacy of Flora MacDonald. Durham, N.C. : Carolina Academic Press, c1997.

Thanks, I now have a couple of new ones to read.

[Nick the DSM]

cool! looks like i have to go to the library soon.