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17th July 08, 08:15 AM
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Absolutely right, we have no record of "Celtic" music if we are referring to the people who originally settled Ireland and Scotland and so forth. It wasn't ever intended to imply a connection with the ancient Celts, but rather an influence from the folk music of these lands that we have come to call "Celtic". When we say "celtic music" today, many think of Irish pub songs, some think of Danny Boy, some think of pipe bands, others fiddle tunes, and some think of more modern Celtic such as The Pogues or Gaelic Storm. Not many consider it the actual music played by the ancient Celtic people. It is from this where "Celtic Metal" comes from.
Again, calling it Celtic Metal may be somewhat of a misnomer, but it is so much easier to say and relate to than saying "Metal with influences from the traditional and recent music of the people of Ireland, Scotland, and the surronding areas."
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17th July 08, 09:08 AM
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I'm not going to enter the debate of how celtic Celtic Metal is (ok, maybe just a little) but for me the name Celtic Metal designs bands with more or less strong links to the Celtic culture, they aren't exactly Celtic. Putting a specific genre on a band is also a way to give someone an idea what they should expect from a band. The name is often take from a detail in said genre, for example the name of the black metal genre comes from a Venom album, this doesn't means that every black metal recording has exactly the same sound as this Venom album (luckily!), in the same way I think that a metal band of the Celtic metal genre doesn't necessarily needs to be 100% Celtic. Classifying a band is also no exact science so of course not everyone can agree.
Now to add my 2 cents to some of the great bands I have seen listed here, of those listed Falkenbach and Eluvetie are my favorite, I'd also list Primordial.
Also give Heidevolk, Myrkgrav, Ulver (the first three albums) and Helrunar a try if you like this kind of music, they're more Folk and Pagan/Black metal, but hell I'll still list them anyway.
If you want to learn something about a metal band go check www.metal-archives.com, however they don't list grind, hardcore, metalcore, neometal and hardrock (of course there are exceptions) *** they have to draw a line somewhere on what is metal and what is not.
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17th July 08, 09:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wolf
... Classifying a band is also no exact science so of course not everyone can agree....
If you want to learn something about a metal band go check www.metal-archives.com, however they don't list grind, hardcore, metalcore, neometal and hardrock (of course there are exceptions) *** they have to draw a line somewhere on what is metal and what is not.
Yes, of course, not everyone will agree with it. That's why I don't like the metal-archives, I could say a few things about them but not here, who gave them the power to say who is metal or who is not? But let's not get further away from the point of the thread, PM if you wish to engage into this further.
Has anyone mentioned Geasa? I didn't see it. They're not necesarily 'Celtic' more as an Irish Death metal band, but they do have lyrics and involve folklore and stuff. So I guess it's a death metal band with some celtic influences??
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17th July 08, 10:13 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Wolf
Also give Heidevolk, Myrkgrav, Ulver (the first three albums) and Helrunar a try if you like this kind of music, they're more Folk and Pagan/Black metal, but hell I'll still list them anyway.
I'd have to rank Ulver's Kveldssanger album as one of my all time favorites. Floored me the first time I heard it, especially compared with some of their others.
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17th July 08, 11:54 AM
#5
i wouldn't trust metal archives as a source, they wouldn't know whats metal if it hit them with face melting riffs and pounding drums.
what makes celtic metal is that it incorporates celtic mythology, elements of traditional music, folk instruments and metal with folk that emphazises as celtic.
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"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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17th July 08, 09:48 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by siva011
Absolutely right, we have no record of "Celtic" music if we are referring to the people who originally settled Ireland and Scotland and so forth. It wasn't ever intended to imply a connection with the ancient Celts, but rather an influence from the folk music of these lands that we have come to call "Celtic". When we say "celtic music" today, many think of Irish pub songs, some think of Danny Boy, some think of pipe bands, others fiddle tunes, and some think of more modern Celtic such as The Pogues or Gaelic Storm. Not many consider it the actual music played by the ancient Celtic people. It is from this where "Celtic Metal" comes from.
Again, calling it Celtic Metal may be somewhat of a misnomer, but it is so much easier to say and relate to than saying "Metal with influences from the traditional and recent music of the people of Ireland, Scotland, and the surronding areas."
Exactly, I think some people miss the point of the labeling. There's viking metal but we don't know what music the vikings played, yet, the music is about vikings and has some Scandinavian folk music influences infused with metal.
And I don't think Celtic means Irish or Scottish, remember in the pre-Roman times the Celts were practically everywhere.
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