Which outfit is "more Scottish?"

**Bugbear** · 2nd October 08, 05:53 PM

My post up there was worded in a confusing way and I was responding to a post that didn't get quoted in my post, so I fixed it

Basically, I agree with Jock Scot. The PC or black Argyle would be over dressed, and the flat cap is not a pardt of a Scottish outfit.

**thanmuwa** · 3rd October 08, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by londonpiper

Especially the bit about a flat cap!!!!
Never seen one worn on this side of the pond with the kilt, ever!!

I wear my grandad's flat cap with my (plain black) kilt this side of the pond but it is most definitely a modern look.... plain white or band logo long-sleeve t-shirt, boots, casual sporran etc. kind of post-post-modern, "pop-band" I suppose.

I can imagine that a kilt, jacket and waistcoat and flat cap, all in tweed, could look kind of ferret-in-my-sporran gamekeeper-esque, but, as the others have said, definitely leave the flat cap behind if you are wearing a tartan kilt!

**English Bloke** · 6th October 08, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Please,please,please leave the flat cap at home. You are after all dressing up as a Scot, not as an American wearing the kilt. Good luck and have fun!

On the other hand... If you're dressing as a Lancastrian who happens to be wearing a Kilt... err maybe not.

**Jock Scot** · 6th October 08, 11:18 PM

Assuming you were asking the same advice-------"Please, please, please leave the flat cap at home.You are after all dressing up as a Scot, not as a Lancastrian wearing the kilt". LOL

**ThistleDown** · 7th October 08, 02:10 AM

With all due respect to you all, may I suggest that we turn this around?

Assume that this is an American teaching in a Turkish school and invited to wear dress that tells his/her students something about American culture by way of appropriate and traditional dress. The choices (and I am bound to miss some) are: (1) sombrero (2) high-crown stetson (3) bowler (4) tricorn (5) Tilley (6) Homberg (7) turban (8) nothing; and he/she choses to accompany any of those with (a) shorts (b) jeans (c) tuxedo pants (d) chaps (e) pantaloons, and has the option of adding (i) a pheasant feather (ii) wool tights (iii) ? ...you get the idea.

Mix and match. But whatever you do, you surely will not get all in America to agree that what you come up with is traditional American dress today.

In regards to the National Dress of Scotland, on the other hand, you will easily obtain from Scots what is "correct and/or accepted" attire for any occasion at any time of the day -- in Scotland -- because we don't have your wonderful confusion of styles, fashions, cultures and traditions. But you must understand that our culture is based on tradition and that is what drives us to say what is and what is not acceptable Highland dress today. If you wish to wear Scottish National Dress, therefore, dress as a Scot wears it.

Was that a rant? If so, I apologise.

**vmac3205** · 7th October 08, 06:59 AM

Why not wear a swseater (jumper) with the kilt? It's a great look.

**Phil** · 7th October 08, 11:15 AM

It does depend a bit on the part of Scotland you are trying to represent but, sadly, kilts are not likely to be a representative item of clothing. In the highlands and islands life for most, except for a few well-to-do landowners, is fairly hard and they are unlikely to own a kilt unless it is a hand-me-down and then they will usually only wear it to ceilidhs and the like. In the more prosperous Edinburgh & Glasgow areas people do own kilts but they will only wear them to special events, weddings, dances etc. & football/rugby matches of course. So to truly represent Scottish dress to your class I would suggest a pair of jeans or other suitable trousers with trainers, a top of your choice, preferably with a hood. but no hat unless you have a baseball cap to fit you. Sorry if that disillusions you but that is the truth of the matter.

**Highland Logan** · 7th October 08, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by ThistleDown

Assume that this is an American teaching in a Turkish school and invited to wear dress that tells his/her students something about American culture by way of appropriate and traditional dress. The choices (and I am bound to miss some) are: (1) sombrero (2) high-crown stetson (3) bowler (4) tricorn (5) Tilley (6) Homberg (7) turban (8) nothing; and he/she choses to accompany any of those with (a) shorts (b) jeans (c) tuxedo pants (d) chaps (e) pantaloons, and has the option of adding (i) a pheasant feather (ii) wool tights (iii).

Perhaps you meant western culture rather than American, as most of your hat choices are not American in origin.. if that was your goal I would suggest a baseball cap.

Frank

**Bugbear** · 7th October 08, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Highland Logan

Perhaps you meant western culture rather than American, as most of your hat choices are not American in origin.. if that was your goal I would suggest a baseball cap.

Frank

I have actually been wondering during all of this what clothes are supposed to be American... It all seems to have originated from some outside source and been Americanized.

Perhaps, the kilt is being Americanized in all of this as the Scots wear it less and less.

**Marshal Moroni** · 7th October 08, 09:37 PM

Clockwork John,

On both occasions last year when I went kilted to the school where I teach (inner city 98% Hispanic Alternative(Continuation) High School) I wore a shirt and tie, because I always wear a shirt and tie.

However, if it were for a special occasion, say a Culture Day, I would wear my tweed argyle, to dress things up a spot.

Good luck with your kilted outing, I have not gone kilted to school yet this year, new Principal who has a Viva La Raza attitude, since I'm the white guy I already stand out.

Cheers,

Marshal Moroni