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23rd October 08, 09:55 AM
#1
Good luck on this, as it can be a thorny issue at some narrow minded places of employment.
As for me, I neither ask for permission nor simply showed up unanounced.
For a couple of weeks prior to me starting to wear my kilts to work, I made sure to let everyone know I had bought a couple and they were comfortable, explaining about my scottish heritage, etc., etc.
So one day half jokingly and half replying to a dare, I told everyone that I might just show up to work wearing my kilt for casual friday.....so I did.
And then monday kilted...and then tuesday kilted...and everyday until now, it's been what...3 months or so now?
My first Friday kilted I was taken to see the boss, actually...I was taken so the boss can see me, and he really liked the look, asked about every piece of kit and that was that.
I guess you can call it tacit approval.
It 'just happened'
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23rd October 08, 10:06 AM
#2
I'm going to try to inject a little understanding here.
How many of us were concerned about what people would think when we first donned a kilt?
A company would naturally have the same concerns. However, instead of just the possibility of personal ridicule, they see the possibility of losing customers, their life blood.
Now, we have all worn the kilt a bit and know that the concerns are largely unfounded. But the company is coming into the situation new, and they don't have the advice of this forum.
I'm not taking their side, but I do cut them some slack.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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23rd October 08, 03:04 PM
#3
Uniform
Does anyone one here actualy have a set uniform they have to wear to work.
Ive been considering turning up kilted but being security and having a uniform i dont think it will go down well,If anyone has any thoughts.
Sorry to hijack this thread
Jordan
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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24th October 08, 05:59 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by The Unkilted Heathen
Does anyone one here actualy have a set uniform they have to wear to work.
Ive been considering turning up kilted but being security and having a uniform i dont think it will go down well,If anyone has any thoughts.
Sorry to hijack this thread
Jordan
I haven't had a set uniform since my days at the front desk at a Hotel, but I did do a stint as a Security Officer, In Canada they are not peace officers. The kilt would probably be frowned upon as you are trying to project an Image of authority and the Kilt might detract from that.
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25th October 08, 02:38 PM
#5
Congrats on winning your boss over! Well done.
 Originally Posted by The Unkilted Heathen
Does anyone one here actualy have a set uniform they have to wear to work.
Ive been considering turning up kilted but being security and having a uniform i dont think it will go down well,If anyone has any thoughts.
Sorry to hijack this thread
Jordan
I distinctly remember Grant (ccga3359) posting a picture of himself some time ago of him in his Coast Guard duty uniform and his maple leaf four-yard (made by MacHummel) standing on the bow of his patrol boat. I thought he looked exceptional in that particular picture (He generally looks mediocre at best in most other pictures he puts up, though. ) You might want to ask him about it.
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23rd October 08, 03:53 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by davedove
I'm going to try to inject a little understanding here.
How many of us were concerned about what people would think when we first donned a kilt?
A company would naturally have the same concerns. However, instead of just the possibility of personal ridicule, they see the possibility of losing customers, their life blood.
Now, we have all worn the kilt a bit and know that the concerns are largely unfounded. But the company is coming into the situation new, and they don't have the advice of this forum.
I'm not taking their side, but I do cut them some slack.
Good points Dave, we tend to forget the troubles we may or may-not have went through when we were first kilted. Especially in these stressed times companies are very aware of the image they put forth to the general public. I know for example that in my company we are not allowed to wear shorts either to the office, or out on a survey crew, or on construction inspection because our company does not feel that shorts put forth a very professional image. While the kilt is definately a very respectable article of clothing it is definately out of the ordinary for most people. Anyhoo, just my 2 cents worth.
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Member Order of the Dandelion
Per Electum - Non consanguinitam
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23rd October 08, 08:29 PM
#7
Being self employed, full time salesman and part time minister (for now, working on changing that the other way around) I still have to consider what would be apropos for different situations. I have several large accounts that are in the construction area, my crocks freak them out ( I have half a dozen pair), I can imagine what a kilt would do to their mindset. However I have several Hair Salons and a few restaurants where when I show up on the bike they think that's ducky.
To test the waters I am going kilted to an Aveda open house on Saturday, just to see how some of my clients react. My guess is I will be surrounded by lots of the gals.
I have thought of capitalizing on the kilt in another way. I will defiantly be adding selections to my wedding business to appeal to Scottish/ Irish/ Celtic style weddings, but I am toying with another idea.
To understand this, let me just say that one of my businesses is increasing the velocity of accounts payments. I show businesses how they can speed up their accounts receivables by using credit card merchant accounts, Automatic Check clearance (ACH) and electronic invoicing. Usually I can turn a 35 day receivable into a 12-14 day one. Since this business is all about reducing cost and deals directly with money at all levels, I am thinking that using the "Scot" (Me) as a logo for the business with a Motto of something like "Inexpensive donna mean low quality". RBS (royal Bank of Scotland) uses as similar tactic sans the kilted guy.
My question is 1)would you all be offended if you saw a guy put together a business plan where he could wear a kilt as part of the business promotion? and 2) Is it insulting to capitalize on the idea of the "frugal Scot" in the first place?
I am simply trying to find a way to "justify" more kilt purchases to the "boss" (herself) and be able to wear those purchases more often.
Thanks for any input.
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24th October 08, 06:22 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by BroosterB1
Being self employed, full time salesman and part time minister (for now, working on changing that the other way around) I still have to consider what would be apropos for different situations. I have several large accounts that are in the construction area, my crocks freak them out ( I have half a dozen pair), I can imagine what a kilt would do to their mindset. However I have several Hair Salons and a few restaurants where when I show up on the bike they think that's ducky.
To test the waters I am going kilted to an Aveda open house on Saturday, just to see how some of my clients react. My guess is I will be surrounded by lots of the gals.
I have thought of capitalizing on the kilt in another way. I will defiantly be adding selections to my wedding business to appeal to Scottish/ Irish/ Celtic style weddings, but I am toying with another idea.
To understand this, let me just say that one of my businesses is increasing the velocity of accounts payments. I show businesses how they can speed up their accounts receivables by using credit card merchant accounts, Automatic Check clearance (ACH) and electronic invoicing. Usually I can turn a 35 day receivable into a 12-14 day one. Since this business is all about reducing cost and deals directly with money at all levels, I am thinking that using the "Scot" (Me) as a logo for the business with a Motto of something like "Inexpensive donna mean low quality". RBS (royal Bank of Scotland) uses as similar tactic sans the kilted guy.
My question is 1)would you all be offended if you saw a guy put together a business plan where he could wear a kilt as part of the business promotion? and 2) Is it insulting to capitalize on the idea of the "frugal Scot" in the first place?
I am simply trying to find a way to "justify" more kilt purchases to the "boss" (herself) and be able to wear those purchases more often.
Thanks for any input.
How about the fact that wearing a kilt would make you a very memorable person in your customer's eyes and therefore much more likely to remember you when talking to other people who could avail themselves of your services? Word-of-mouth advertising is usually the best.
Or is that too tenuous?
Mark
Tetley
The Traveller
What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it. - Lazarus Long
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24th October 08, 01:11 PM
#9
FREEDOM!
The unbifurcated male garment is a go as long as it doesn't distract me or any coworkers from their jobs. I assured her that I'd be fine but that I'd appreciate help in knowing whether or not it's a problem for others.
Baby steps.
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25th October 08, 08:02 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Phogfan86
FREEDOM!
The unbifurcated male garment is a go as long as it doesn't distract me or any coworkers from their jobs. I assured her that I'd be fine but that I'd appreciate help in knowing whether or not it's a problem for others.
Baby steps.
Congratulations. Remember to wear the kilt with pride, and continue on in the professional manner you always have. I'm sure you will get lots of questions the first few days, but that should settle down quickly. Good luck lad.
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Member Order of the Dandelion
Per Electum - Non consanguinitam
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