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14th October 08, 07:12 PM
#51
"I'd recommend any books written by Helen Nicholson and/or David Nicolle."
Thanks for the recommendation I will check both the authors out. I am always on the look out for good books on the crusades.
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14th October 08, 08:05 PM
#52
 Originally Posted by bowser
Interesting thread, I had a kilt made for me when I was about 9 and living in Scotland, and the only thing you would wear at the time if you didn't have a particular "family/clan" tartan was either Stewart or any of the military ones, now I know that you CAN wear any but it just was not the done thing. Being English it was one of the military tartans, (actually black watch), you would not consider wearing any other, funny how now the talk is of not wearing a military tartan unless you have served in that particular branch.
I have no particular comment to make just the observation on how opinions have changed over 30 years or so and from one side of the pond to the other.
There are some, probably many if not most, who would be more likely to agree with your earlier understanding.
I don't see how kilts are all that different from any other military surplus that can commonly be worn in a civilian context by anyone who wanders into an army-navy surplus store. In fact, military surplus clothing was quite popular in the US not so long ago. OK, a few decades ago.
On the other hand, at least in the context of a Scottish event, I think most would agree that it still would be inappropriate to wear a tartan of a clan other than one's own, and many would say also in most other contexts as well.
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23rd October 08, 11:58 AM
#53
I'll start of by freely admitting that I'm a non-qual FLOB (Freeloading oxygen breather) but I did get temporarily 'stuck' on the Tecumseh. Interesting diversion from life in SBU's.
I wear my Edzell tartan proudly--8 years--I have the right. Add to that, it was designed for sailors at Edzell who were primarily CT's --I was a CT.
I see someone wearing an Edzell or a Polaris--I HAVE to talk to him. Yes, it does raise my hackles a bit when someone with NO connection whatsoever to the Navy is wrapped in these tartans--I don't act like a jerk but I DO say "For me and the guys who served--boy--wear it well, or we might take it from ya". It's an odd thing I know and the ONLY time this reaction happens to me.
Now--as for wearing a tartan in HONOR of your dad--seems like a very nobel thing for a son to do--so I say bubblehead or not, sailor or not--for your dad--wear it well boy, wear it well.
I don't have children of my own, but I do have a nephew who has just realized that kilts are cool and he wants to dress like his uncle sometimes.
If a day comes when that lad shows up in the tartan of my service--in honor of me--not a dry eye to be had--BUT he WILL be buying the first round and be subjected to one of my "One time...down near Panama" stories ;-)
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23rd October 08, 12:17 PM
#54
"41 for Freedom" Polaris kilt
 Originally Posted by Detroitpete
I'll start of by freely admitting that I'm a non-qual FLOB (Freeloading oxygen breather) but I did get temporarily 'stuck' on the Tecumseh. Interesting diversion from life in SBU's.
I wear my Edzell tartan proudly--8 years--I have the right. Add to that, it was designed for sailors at Edzell who were primarily CT's --I was a CT.
I see someone wearing an Edzell or a Polaris--I HAVE to talk to him. Yes, it does raise my hackles a bit when someone with NO connection whatsoever to the Navy is wrapped in these tartans--I don't act like a jerk but I DO say "For me and the guys who served--boy--wear it well, or we might take it from ya". It's an odd thing I know and the ONLY time this reaction happens to me.
Now--as for wearing a tartan in HONOR of your dad--seems like a very nobel thing for a son to do--so I say bubblehead or not, sailor or not--for your dad--wear it well boy, wear it well.
I don't have children of my own, but I do have a nephew who has just realized that kilts are cool and he wants to dress like his uncle sometimes.
If a day comes when that lad shows up in the tartan of my service--in honor of me--not a dry eye to be had--BUT he WILL be buying the first round and be subjected to one of my "One time...down near Panama" stories ;-)
WELL SAID PETE!!!!!
My dad was 26 years under the ocean and he pulled many a sub out of Holy Loch, My sis untill 2 years ago was 20 years in as a CT she was in Edzel as well.
I have been going over in my head as i have been reading this thread weither or not i should aquire one of these kilts after reading a bit now and thanks to your 2 cents it gets added to my list of Kilts to own.
Thank you for chiming in
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23rd October 08, 12:44 PM
#55
Rogue,
For your dad and your sister..Where it well boy ;-)
See catching up with you in either the Polaris or Edzell and having that chat--is exactly what I'm talking about--no one (who served in the Navy--in my opinion) would say anything but 'thank you' for wearing it. We still would probably get you to buy the first round though ;-) Just 'cuz we're crafty and cheap--err umhum thrifty-- like that!
P.S. I like your signature quote--I think I've lived that too!
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24th February 09, 01:04 PM
#56
I've been emailing with John Higgins of jhiggins.com about the Polaris Military tartan and the minimum order is 32 yards of double wide cloth. That's enough to make 8 kilts. I certainly can't afford to buy the whole thing myself, are there 7 others out there that are interested? I made 8 patrols on a boomer out of Holy Loch, and I NEED one of these:-)
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24th February 09, 01:11 PM
#57
 Originally Posted by rodandy
I've been emailing with John Higgins of jhiggins.com about the Polaris Military tartan and the minimum order is 32 yards of double wide cloth. That's enough to make 8 kilts. I certainly can't afford to buy the whole thing myself, are there 7 others out there that are interested? I made 8 patrols on a boomer out of Holy Loch, and I NEED one of these:-)
Why not contact kiltmakers M.A.C. Newsome, Barb Tewksbury or Kathy Lare? All three can get small-batch runs of rare tartans.
Matt and Barb are forum members, and a number of folks here have kilts by Kathy Lare.
Regards,
Todd
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28th February 09, 07:23 PM
#58
USN Polaris tartan
Hey,
Go ahead and wear it for your Dad. I'm sure that he would feel honored that you are wearing it for him. Well Done, good son.
Actually I thought the tartan was for anyone who was at Holy Loch, Scotland. I will be having one made for myself soon.
If anyone finds fault with you, shame on them. Just ignore them, look around. There will be plenty of kilted vets who will appreciate your gesture.
Tommy Beard
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28th February 09, 07:27 PM
#59
 Originally Posted by rodandy
I've been emailing with John Higgins of jhiggins.com about the Polaris Military tartan and the minimum order is 32 yards of double wide cloth. That's enough to make 8 kilts. I certainly can't afford to buy the whole thing myself, are there 7 others out there that are interested? I made 8 patrols on a boomer out of Holy Loch, and I NEED one of these:-)
As i posted above, my dad was in Holy Loch, which boat where you on? His name is Warren Chard he was a storekeeper when he was active duty.
I want one as well but its not in the cards at the moment. wish i could help
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1st March 09, 08:18 AM
#60
I served on USS Andrew Jackson SSBN 619G from Apr. '82 until Sep. 86.
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